Hi, On 10/6/22 00:36, Linh Nguyen wrote:
In the spirit of the Wikimedia Movement Strategy, to be inclusive and support open knowledge, I applaud everyone to reach out to others in our community to help and support those who are not as fortunate to have the skills and knowledge you have. We should be lifting each other up and stop pushing others down for trying to help the community.
I think it is patently unfair to describe Brian's email as "pushing others down". It is an absolutely fair critique of the *TDF* to ask why they are appointing members who appear to have no experience in Wikimedia technical spaces. This is not a commentary on the people who applied, but rather the TDF process.
If anyone out there is willing to contribute to the Technical Decision Forum process, please add your name to the list <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_decision_making/Community_rep_nomination>.
I am fine with saying the quiet part out loud. Most volunteer developers aren't interested in participating in the TDF because it treats them as second-class participants. Contrasting to TechCom, which for all its faults at least had public meetings that volunteers could participate in as equals, the implementation of the TDF literally left volunteers as an afterthought.
At this point joining the TDF would only add the appearance of legitimacy to a closed, non-transparent system that is antithetical to Wikimedia development principles.
Brian and everyone else, if you have ideas on how we can have more community representation, please feel free to contact us at [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. We need to come together with ideas and solutions and remove negativity from the process.
The negativity mostly exists because people (WMF staff and volunteers) having spent months asking questions about TDF composition and decisions and then were entirely ghosted.
I currently count about 33 out of 40 TDF members being WMF Staff. Over the past 90 days, only 49.4% of Gerrit patches came from WMF Staff[1]. My straw-dog proposal is that representation should be proportional, i.e. WMF Staff should make up less than half of the TDF, or whatever decision-making body replaces it.
[1] https://wikimedia.biterg.io/ -- Kunal / Legoktm _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/
