Hello
For me, one delimiting factor I see to the progress of Wikiversity is the
number of contributors. As compared to Wikipedia, wikiversity has got few
people helping expand articles there. Everyone's (if not some) are on
Wikipedia most often.
Wikiversity can be a useful and complete research tool provided
contributors to it are many (like Wikipedia).
Creating a new journal to hold research stuffs, to me will also depend on
user contribution. And if Wikiversity is lacking the huge number of
contributors to turn it into a full-fledged research hub, how much more a
new journal created?
If there'll be any effort in building a research tool aside Wikiversity,
then I think it will be better rather inviting more contributors to
Wikiversity.
Starting a new journal isn't easy ('m sure you guys know about Wikidata. )
the work involved and required, I think we can direct it to amassing more
users for Wikiversity which is the lifeblood of all Wikimedia project
websites.
If Wikiversity doesn't succeed as a research tool, can success be said of a
new one?
thanks
rex
On Sunday, November 11, 2012, Joe Corneli wrote:
> Hi Juan:
>
> I hope it won't offend anyone too much if I say that the research
> currently hosted on Wikiversity is not all of high quality. (Note to
> reader: if you were offended by what I just said, please stop reading
> now, it's not my intention to offend anyone, I'm just sharing my
> impressions of the site as I think about whether it is suitable for
> use as the kind of Research Hub I've been imagining, or as a place to
> build a scholarly journal, etc.)
>
> Indeed, it's a bit hard to figure out what all is really meant to be
> included under the "research" label on Wikiversity.
>
> For instance, http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Research links to
> the "research-related portal"
> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Mathematics -- but this page
> says:
>
> "Wikiversity participants who are interested in mathematics are
> invited to create and develop *learning projects* and *learning
> resources* and help organize them by developing this portal."
>
> If we return to the Research Portal itself, then there's this:
>
> "Guide to Research: The following is a dynamic listing of all the
> pages categorised into this portal. To restructure or extend this
> list, you will need to edit the category system itself. Where are the
> use instructions for this template?"
>
> (It seems like the curator(s) are having a public conversation with
> themselves here.)
>
> But, OK, examining the list of pages that are designated as belonging
> to research, my eyes are instantly drawn to things like:
>
>
> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Abd/Wikipedia,_Wikiversity_and_disruptive_editing
>
> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Brainless_humans_for_transplants(User:Super_Quantum_immortal)
> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Dominant_group
>
> none of which are particularly easy for me to make sense of.
>
> This one is much more straightforward:
>
> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Early_telescope
>
> but it looks more like a student research project, rather than
> something that is aiming for eventual publication in a journal, or any
> other sort of further development. And this would describe many of
> the other articles that I sampled. It's not clear what the difference
> is between this kind of page and a Wikipedia page on the same topic.
>
> My initial conclusion is that Wikiversity's Research Portal could
> potentially be used as a research hub like I was envisioning, but it
> would need to be retooled almost completely, and most of the current
> content would get pushed into a "student research" or "science
> fiction" category.
>
> I'm not sure I have time to take on something like this! I'll be
> focusing on developing my own work elsewhere... and I'll report back
> to the other people looking at building a Research Hub to see what
> they think.
>
> Joe
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Juan de Vojníkov
> <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Well,
> >
> > it could go to Wikiversity. Wikiversity is also about research, not only
> > education. Recently I was kicked from Wikibooks, where I left a primary
> > research textbook, so I came back to Wikiversity. That is like GLAM
> > bulletin, which is on outreach wiki, not at its own special wiki.
> >
> > There is also the other way to have a special wiki for the journal, but
> if
> > there are not many contributors its better to start on existing project
> and
> > than if needed move it outside.
> >
> > Think also about Wikiversity Beta, which is suppose to be our
> multilingual
> > hub and incubator.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Juandev
> >
> > 2012/11/9 Joe Corneli <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> >>
> >> Dear Wikiversity-ans:
> >>
> >> There has been some considerable discussion in wiki-research-l about
> >> creating a new Wiki Studies journal and/or a new place to do research
> >> the wiki way.
> >>
> >> One question is, why do we need a new place to do research, couldn't
> >> we just use Wikiversity for that? For now, Wikiversity seems to focus
> >> on education and specifically-educational research, but might it make
> >> sense to broaden the scope to include original research more
> >> generally?
> >>
> >> If you could have a look at the skeleton of the proposal here and add
> >> your input (or via this thread), I would appreciate it!
> >>
> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Ideas/Research_Hub
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Joe
> >>
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