Well, I am not offended. Wikiversity is how it is. If you dont have powers to start a new project within Wikiversity or rebuild actual Research portal than I dont understand, why you are coining with the idea to buid such hub within Wikiversity.
But I should have a look to Meta. I still dont understand, why the Journal team needs also Research Hub - thats extra work. Regards, Juandev 2012/11/11 Joe Corneli <[email protected]> > Hi Juan: > > I hope it won't offend anyone too much if I say that the research > currently hosted on Wikiversity is not all of high quality. (Note to > reader: if you were offended by what I just said, please stop reading > now, it's not my intention to offend anyone, I'm just sharing my > impressions of the site as I think about whether it is suitable for > use as the kind of Research Hub I've been imagining, or as a place to > build a scholarly journal, etc.) > > Indeed, it's a bit hard to figure out what all is really meant to be > included under the "research" label on Wikiversity. > > For instance, http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Research links to > the "research-related portal" > http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Mathematics -- but this page > says: > > "Wikiversity participants who are interested in mathematics are > invited to create and develop *learning projects* and *learning > resources* and help organize them by developing this portal." > > If we return to the Research Portal itself, then there's this: > > "Guide to Research: The following is a dynamic listing of all the > pages categorised into this portal. To restructure or extend this > list, you will need to edit the category system itself. Where are the > use instructions for this template?" > > (It seems like the curator(s) are having a public conversation with > themselves here.) > > But, OK, examining the list of pages that are designated as belonging > to research, my eyes are instantly drawn to things like: > > > http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Abd/Wikipedia,_Wikiversity_and_disruptive_editing > > http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Brainless_humans_for_transplants(User:Super_Quantum_immortal) > http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Dominant_group > > none of which are particularly easy for me to make sense of. > > This one is much more straightforward: > > http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Early_telescope > > but it looks more like a student research project, rather than > something that is aiming for eventual publication in a journal, or any > other sort of further development. And this would describe many of > the other articles that I sampled. It's not clear what the difference > is between this kind of page and a Wikipedia page on the same topic. > > My initial conclusion is that Wikiversity's Research Portal could > potentially be used as a research hub like I was envisioning, but it > would need to be retooled almost completely, and most of the current > content would get pushed into a "student research" or "science > fiction" category. > > I'm not sure I have time to take on something like this! I'll be > focusing on developing my own work elsewhere... and I'll report back > to the other people looking at building a Research Hub to see what > they think. > > Joe > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Juan de Vojníkov > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, > > > > it could go to Wikiversity. Wikiversity is also about research, not only > > education. Recently I was kicked from Wikibooks, where I left a primary > > research textbook, so I came back to Wikiversity. That is like GLAM > > bulletin, which is on outreach wiki, not at its own special wiki. > > > > There is also the other way to have a special wiki for the journal, but > if > > there are not many contributors its better to start on existing project > and > > than if needed move it outside. > > > > Think also about Wikiversity Beta, which is suppose to be our > multilingual > > hub and incubator. > > > > > > Regards, > > Juandev > > > > 2012/11/9 Joe Corneli <[email protected]> > >> > >> Dear Wikiversity-ans: > >> > >> There has been some considerable discussion in wiki-research-l about > >> creating a new Wiki Studies journal and/or a new place to do research > >> the wiki way. > >> > >> One question is, why do we need a new place to do research, couldn't > >> we just use Wikiversity for that? For now, Wikiversity seems to focus > >> on education and specifically-educational research, but might it make > >> sense to broaden the scope to include original research more > >> generally? > >> > >> If you could have a look at the skeleton of the proposal here and add > >> your input (or via this thread), I would appreciate it! > >> > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Ideas/Research_Hub > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Joe > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikiversity-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikiversity-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikiversity-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >
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