I think this is a great movement. I will support the Wikiversity eXtension and would love to help out with some of the design and implementation. Best of luck with the future progression to helping out with supporting a more modern higher education. dYlan
On 12 November 2012 13:12, Leigh Blackall <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been involved in several projects on Wikiversity where a formal > institution is involved. > > See page UCNISS for one example. I help set that up for that teaching and > research institute at the University of Canberra. One of the more > successful courses we ran using Wikiversity was, The Business and Politics > of Support (see BPS2011). James Neill, also at the University of Canberra, > uses Wikiversity with his psychology students. See the pages under > Motivation and Emotion. Today, the University of Canberra offers little > recognition for this work, but the seed was planted and open education and > research is getting more support across Australia and internationally. I'm > now at La Trobe University in Melbourne, and starting work with several > academics there who want to develop open academic practices. Our focus will > be around education for health professionals, but presented in a way that > should be useful for non professionals as well. See the page Health > Education and Development for a WIP in it's early stages. > > Wikiversity is positioned to accept unceasing numbers of university > academics who are only now beginning to look at openness in their > profession. Research funding bodies are starting to demand openness (in > access and copyright of reports and papers at this stage, but I'd expect > process and data too come as well), and universities are exploring open > courses as well. > > I think Wikiversity should do very little. It's "community" is precarious, > having been through at least 2 major upheavals. It simply needs to maintain > the platform spam and vandal free, avoid deletionism, welcome new comers, > and highlight new and interesting projects on the front page. > > Hopefully conversations like these don't lead to a closure around > Wikiversity scope, stemming from some people's performance anxiety in the > shadow of Wikipedia. I'm confident that in time (read 3-5 years) > Wikiversity will be a vibrant and diverse space for teaching, learning and > research. It's critical however, that those who currently work to maintain > the space today, avoid the wars and closures of the recent past. > On Nov 13, 2012 3:16 AM, "Juan de Vojníkov" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Well, >> >> I am not offended. Wikiversity is how it is. If you dont have powers to >> start a new project within Wikiversity or rebuild actual Research portal >> than I dont understand, why you are coining with the idea to buid such hub >> within Wikiversity. >> >> But I should have a look to Meta. I still dont understand, why the >> Journal team needs also Research Hub - thats extra work. >> >> Regards, >> Juandev >> >> 2012/11/11 Joe Corneli <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi Juan: >>> >>> I hope it won't offend anyone too much if I say that the research >>> currently hosted on Wikiversity is not all of high quality. (Note to >>> reader: if you were offended by what I just said, please stop reading >>> now, it's not my intention to offend anyone, I'm just sharing my >>> impressions of the site as I think about whether it is suitable for >>> use as the kind of Research Hub I've been imagining, or as a place to >>> build a scholarly journal, etc.) >>> >>> Indeed, it's a bit hard to figure out what all is really meant to be >>> included under the "research" label on Wikiversity. >>> >>> For instance, http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Research links to >>> the "research-related portal" >>> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Mathematics -- but this page >>> says: >>> >>> "Wikiversity participants who are interested in mathematics are >>> invited to create and develop *learning projects* and *learning >>> resources* and help organize them by developing this portal." >>> >>> If we return to the Research Portal itself, then there's this: >>> >>> "Guide to Research: The following is a dynamic listing of all the >>> pages categorised into this portal. To restructure or extend this >>> list, you will need to edit the category system itself. Where are the >>> use instructions for this template?" >>> >>> (It seems like the curator(s) are having a public conversation with >>> themselves here.) >>> >>> But, OK, examining the list of pages that are designated as belonging >>> to research, my eyes are instantly drawn to things like: >>> >>> >>> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Abd/Wikipedia,_Wikiversity_and_disruptive_editing >>> >>> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Brainless_humans_for_transplants(User:Super_Quantum_immortal) >>> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Dominant_group >>> >>> none of which are particularly easy for me to make sense of. >>> >>> This one is much more straightforward: >>> >>> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Early_telescope >>> >>> but it looks more like a student research project, rather than >>> something that is aiming for eventual publication in a journal, or any >>> other sort of further development. And this would describe many of >>> the other articles that I sampled. It's not clear what the difference >>> is between this kind of page and a Wikipedia page on the same topic. >>> >>> My initial conclusion is that Wikiversity's Research Portal could >>> potentially be used as a research hub like I was envisioning, but it >>> would need to be retooled almost completely, and most of the current >>> content would get pushed into a "student research" or "science >>> fiction" category. >>> >>> I'm not sure I have time to take on something like this! I'll be >>> focusing on developing my own work elsewhere... and I'll report back >>> to the other people looking at building a Research Hub to see what >>> they think. >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Juan de Vojníkov >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Well, >>> > >>> > it could go to Wikiversity. Wikiversity is also about research, not >>> only >>> > education. Recently I was kicked from Wikibooks, where I left a primary >>> > research textbook, so I came back to Wikiversity. That is like GLAM >>> > bulletin, which is on outreach wiki, not at its own special wiki. >>> > >>> > There is also the other way to have a special wiki for the journal, >>> but if >>> > there are not many contributors its better to start on existing >>> project and >>> > than if needed move it outside. >>> > >>> > Think also about Wikiversity Beta, which is suppose to be our >>> multilingual >>> > hub and incubator. >>> > >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Juandev >>> > >>> > 2012/11/9 Joe Corneli <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> >> Dear Wikiversity-ans: >>> >> >>> >> There has been some considerable discussion in wiki-research-l about >>> >> creating a new Wiki Studies journal and/or a new place to do research >>> >> the wiki way. >>> >> >>> >> One question is, why do we need a new place to do research, couldn't >>> >> we just use Wikiversity for that? For now, Wikiversity seems to focus >>> >> on education and specifically-educational research, but might it make >>> >> sense to broaden the scope to include original research more >>> >> generally? >>> >> >>> >> If you could have a look at the skeleton of the proposal here and add >>> >> your input (or via this thread), I would appreciate it! >>> >> >>> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Ideas/Research_Hub >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> Joe >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Wikiversity-l mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wikiversity-l mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikiversity-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikiversity-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikiversity-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l > >
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