A small group of people learning about research practice has been forming around the Wikiversity page PhD. New members and help in progressing this project would be wonderful. We could schedule a Hangout meeting if anyone is interested. http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello > > For me, one delimiting factor I see to the progress of Wikiversity is the > number of contributors. As compared to Wikipedia, wikiversity has got few > people helping expand articles there. Everyone's (if not some) are on > Wikipedia most often. > > Wikiversity can be a useful and complete research tool provided > contributors to it are many (like Wikipedia). > > Creating a new journal to hold research stuffs, to me will also depend on > user contribution. And if Wikiversity is lacking the huge number of > contributors to turn it into a full-fledged research hub, how much more a > new journal created? > > If there'll be any effort in building a research tool aside Wikiversity, > then I think it will be better rather inviting more contributors to > Wikiversity. > > Starting a new journal isn't easy ('m sure you guys know about Wikidata. ) > the work involved and required, I think we can direct it to amassing more > users for Wikiversity which is the lifeblood of all Wikimedia project > websites. > > If Wikiversity doesn't succeed as a research tool, can success be said of > a new one? > > thanks > rex > > > On Sunday, November 11, 2012, Joe Corneli wrote: > >> Hi Juan: >> >> I hope it won't offend anyone too much if I say that the research >> currently hosted on Wikiversity is not all of high quality. (Note to >> reader: if you were offended by what I just said, please stop reading >> now, it's not my intention to offend anyone, I'm just sharing my >> impressions of the site as I think about whether it is suitable for >> use as the kind of Research Hub I've been imagining, or as a place to >> build a scholarly journal, etc.) >> >> Indeed, it's a bit hard to figure out what all is really meant to be >> included under the "research" label on Wikiversity. >> >> For instance, http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Research links to >> the "research-related portal" >> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Mathematics -- but this page >> says: >> >> "Wikiversity participants who are interested in mathematics are >> invited to create and develop *learning projects* and *learning >> resources* and help organize them by developing this portal." >> >> If we return to the Research Portal itself, then there's this: >> >> "Guide to Research: The following is a dynamic listing of all the >> pages categorised into this portal. To restructure or extend this >> list, you will need to edit the category system itself. Where are the >> use instructions for this template?" >> >> (It seems like the curator(s) are having a public conversation with >> themselves here.) >> >> But, OK, examining the list of pages that are designated as belonging >> to research, my eyes are instantly drawn to things like: >> >> >> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Abd/Wikipedia,_Wikiversity_and_disruptive_editing >> >> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Brainless_humans_for_transplants(User:Super_Quantum_immortal) >> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Dominant_group >> >> none of which are particularly easy for me to make sense of. >> >> This one is much more straightforward: >> >> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Early_telescope >> >> but it looks more like a student research project, rather than >> something that is aiming for eventual publication in a journal, or any >> other sort of further development. And this would describe many of >> the other articles that I sampled. It's not clear what the difference >> is between this kind of page and a Wikipedia page on the same topic. >> >> My initial conclusion is that Wikiversity's Research Portal could >> potentially be used as a research hub like I was envisioning, but it >> would need to be retooled almost completely, and most of the current >> content would get pushed into a "student research" or "science >> fiction" category. >> >> I'm not sure I have time to take on something like this! I'll be >> focusing on developing my own work elsewhere... and I'll report back >> to the other people looking at building a Research Hub to see what >> they think. >> >> Joe >> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Juan de Vojníkov >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Well, >> > >> > it could go to Wikiversity. Wikiversity is also about research, not only >> > education. Recently I was kicked from Wikibooks, where I left a primary >> > research textbook, so I came back to Wikiversity. That is like GLAM >> > bulletin, which is on outreach wiki, not at its own special wiki. >> > >> > There is also the other way to have a special wiki for the journal, but >> if >> > there are not many contributors its better to start on existing project >> and >> > than if needed move it outside. >> > >> > Think also about Wikiversity Beta, which is suppose to be our >> multilingual >> > hub and incubator. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > Juandev >> > >> > 2012/11/9 Joe Corneli <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Dear Wikiversity-ans: >> >> >> >> There has been some considerable discussion in wiki-research-l about >> >> creating a new Wiki Studies journal and/or a new place to do research >> >> the wiki way. >> >> >> >> One question is, why do we need a new place to do research, couldn't >> >> we just use Wikiversity for that? For now, Wikiversity seems to focus >> >> on education and specifically-educational research, but might it make >> >> sense to broaden the scope to include original research more >> >> generally? >> >> >> >> If you could have a look at the skeleton of the proposal here and add >> >> your input (or via this thread), I would appreciate it! >> >> >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Ideas/Research_Hub >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikiversity-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikiversity-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikiversity-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l >> > > > -- > +Nyarko Rexford <https://plus.google.com/u/0/107174506890941499078> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikiversity-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l > > -- -- Leigh Blackall <http://about.me/leighblackall> +61(0)404561009
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