I glossed over (or forgot) that section of the symptoms...

That sounds more like a problem with "jumpers"... An odd one
I'll admit, but I have seen some VERY odd things happen when
jumpers were wrong on various random drives. I have seen even
ODDER things happen with Cable Select, but that is in the archives...
(I did not get around to making my cables shorter yet, and things
are still working great with "only" using jumpers...)

I commonly have three or four IDE readers and/or burners hooked
up, (there are always two burners of some type), (and as many
as three IDE HDs), and never had CD/DVD drives conflict in that way...
Older IDE hard drives, (lets say ones under 1G) sometimes refused to
"play nicely together" due to a certain vagueness (or implementation) of
the older IDE specs...

As far as the failure in the lead-in... I have not had any errors of any kind
for quite some time,
(except for a random bad media -- might be a failure rate of 5%, and
seems to be fairly consistent regardless of what drives I use),
but IIRC, the lead-in might only get burned poorly when "building" a
TOC using the PMA area. PMA areas were thought to be a "weak link"
by some experts... It was "such a problem" at one time, the "workaround"
was to change the style of the burn. (I think the answer was to always use
DAO.) I also believe, (at least in my case), it was due to some incompatibility
with my drive and the (cheap) disks I was using. (I think it would give sense
errors, but it has been a very long time...)

In any event, we are beating a dead horse since I doubt if you
want to go and see if you can reproduce the problem. <grin>

                                               Rick Glazier

From: "James Button"
> But - would that have got around the problems that it would only work with 
> the correct drive powered up -
> With both powered up it tended to hang, or just fail during lead-in creation.
> I suspect that there were minor differences ( bits chopped out or changed to 
> limit functionality) in the 'OEM' dlls when compared
> with the 'Retail' version - but I couldn't be bothered to delve that deeply 
> into the problem

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