On 16 Apr 2005 at 20:15, Gaffer wrote: > Can we at least agree about what we mean when we say "Identity" ! > > To me this is simply an Email address that I use. It could be one of > many that I am known by.
That's basically what it is in Pegasus: that is, a collection of settings that are used when you _originate_ an email message. > The same thing when we refer to a Mail server. > To me this is the machine that allows me to send Emails and usually > belongs to my ISP. That's the "SMTP Server" and you may use different ones depending on particulars of your email or where you're currently connected/dialedinto. > .. It also 'may' have a POP mailbox on it, from > which I would collect Email sent to me at my ISP's domain. Well, two things: first, POP and SMTP have nothing to do with one another. I use some SMTP servers that have *NO* pop mailboxes for me associated with them. And I have a POP box that doesn't have an SMTP server I can use associated with it (obviously it'll accept incoming email for me, but I can't use it to send outgoing mail because of authentication problems -- I'd have to VPN in (which I very rarely do) before it'd let me use it for outgoing email). Second, pop mailboxes can collect email from *ANYWHERE*. Not necessarily *JUST* email "sent to me at my ISP's domain". As I mentionednm (in the other message), my fantasyfarm.com email goes to a third-party POP mailbox [since there aren't any servers associated with fantasyfarm.com]. And there are a *BUNCH* of other email addresses I use from time to time that all converge on that same mailbox... (e.g., my @acm.com and @bu.edu and @northeastern.edu, a bunch of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses). I think this is one of the big sources of confusion in this discussion: many folk here think there is some mapping between "identities" (that is, "email addresses taht I use when I send email") and "pop mailboxes" (that is, places at which I receive email) and presume that you can figure out something about the identity to use for a particular message just from which POP mailbox it was picked up from. For me [and I suspect almost anyone with a more-than-trivial email setup], the mapping doesn't work: temail associated with a BUNCH of identities all mixed together in a single POP mailbox... AND in mycase [although my email setup is probably more complicated than most), the converse is true, too: email for a particular identity of mine can actually show up in any of several email boxes (the joy of backup SMTP servers and such). As I've asked [a couple of times now], *HOW* do those fancy-email-clients actually manage to guess the right "identity" to use for a message when the only info at hand is which POP mailbox it happened to be picked up from??? Pegasus doesn't even *try* and that's fine by me, since I can't see how it could be done at all. > I can have several Outboxes, each one associated with a specific ISP. > By placing my outgoing Email into a specific Outbox I can choose > which ISP I use to send my mail. Pegasus doesn't work this way. Pegasus has a *single* outbox and associates the SMTP server to use for a particular outgoing message with the the SMTP info associated with the dentity used for that message. Just looking at Pegasus's output queue there's *NO* simple way to figure out which [or how many] SMTP servers Pegasus will use for the messages: you'd have to look at each one, see which identity it used, then go into the config for that identity and see which SMTP server it was configured to use. /Bernie\ -- Bernie Cosell Fantasy Farm Fibers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Pearisburg, VA --> Too many people, too few sheep <-- -- ---------------------------------------- The WIN-HOME list is hosted on a Windows 2000(TM) machine running L-Soft international's LISTSERV(R) software. To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have questions about the list, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
