Hi Chris OK, I suspected that might be the case. But it seems to me that, especially in an object-orientated environment, mouse movement controls would be even more vital than it is in non-object-orientated environments. Software these days is increasingly dependent upon mouse control and its absence from NVDA really is a bit disappointing.
One can use SPL via keyboard controls, but in order to monitor the status bar at the bottom of your window, if the NVDA key stroke for that doesn't work, you're kind of stuck. Thanks for the response. I'll see how far we can go with this. <--- Gordon Smith ---> E-Mail: <[email protected]> Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Australia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> Skype: <callto:mac-access-dot-net> ------------------------------ On 4 Mar 2013, at 12:25, chris h (sky) <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Gordon unfortunately Nvda has very few ways of interacting with the mouse. First, there is no virtual mouse pointer like there is in Window-Eyes or System Access for that matter, or be it with limited functionality when I last used it. Back to Nvda, there is an add-on which may help, Vmouse, which you can search for. I think it's £3 and they accept payments by Paypal only. So in short, you cannot navigate the mouse with Nvda without the use of third party add-ons like the above. Instead you use what are called object navigation and flat review. The user guide, available from the help menu, will explain all this to you. You can also use the Commands Quick Reference, also available in the help menu, to get yourself familiar with keys for object navigation and flat review. Now for System Access, I understand they have a virtual mouse feature, accessed with modifier-m. You can basically navigate the text on the screen, as well as interact with objects, including left and right clicking where appropriate. But this may have changed from when I last used it, which was last year. Unfortunately I had to stop using System Access as MalwareBytes Pro reported what I believe to be false positives with some of the components that are to do with System Access. So for my own security I abandoned it. This was a shame really as I quite liked what both System Access and the System Access Mobile Network offered. Hope this all helps. Chris. On 04/03/2013 11:11, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > OK, I've taken the plunge. I have removed, permanently, my copy of > Window-Eyes from both my Asus eEPC net rook, and my Samgsung 17-inch > notebook/laptop/Desktop. The latter is a quite wonderful machine and I hav > already tried using it with one of my play out/studio packages, "Station > Playlist & Studio Pro. I also plan to try it with SAM Broadcaster 2013 > which, I am happy to say, no longer uses non-Windows control elements and > which, with Window-Eyes at least, I have found to be extremely accessible. > > But the reason for this message is to pose what some will, I am sur, consider > to be a very basic NVDA question. For that, I am sorry. However, > nevertheless, here goes: > > 1. How, with the exception of software which allows cursor movement and > other inbuilt navigation controls, can one intuitively and reliably, navigate > the screen in the same way as Window-Eyes does. That meaning how does one > move, and use, the mouse pointer in order to click on elements whose > properties need to be both verbalised and where there are elements such as > combo boxes, radio buttons buttons and other clickable events which are > ussable with NVDA? > > For example, to simplify this, a piece of software such as OTS AV DH requires > mouse navigation in order to both modify the properties of, and also add that > element to a user-definable position within your playlist? > > Now that Window-Eyes jus confined to the history books as far as I am > concerned, my use of Window will require either NVDA or Systen Access. Lynne > bought me a stand-alone licence for System Access, so this will hopefully > provide me with enough options for both my professional requirements, and my > personal ones. > > How then does one navigate by moving the mouse pointer when using NVDA and, > if it is possible, also System Access? The latter seems very restrictive in > terms of its interaction with all but the most basic software. However, I am > more than happy with my available options. I am only too happy to be shot of > Window-Eyes! > > As I write, I am awaiting the authorisation letter from Access To Work so > that my equipment can b purchased. The case manager has already confirmed > that the items I requested will be the items I receive. So I guess I got > lucky. Later this week all being well, I will be the proud user of a > Humanware Apex BrailleNote. I am also awaiting the arrival of a Freedom > Scientific Pearl camera, plus the Openbook 9 software. I'm hoping that the > Pearl will function with other software as well on both Windows and OS X. > Anyway, if anybody can answer my questions if, that is, they can make sense > of my babbling, I'd be very grateful. > > <--- Gordon Smith ---> > > E-Mail: > <[email protected]> > > Telephone: > > United Kingdom: Free Phone: > 0800 8620538 > > Europe and other non-specified: > +44 1642 688095 > > United States Of America And Canada: > +1 646 9151493 > > Australia: > +61 38 8205930 > Or: > +61 39 0284505 > > Fax: > +44 1642 365123 > > Follow Us On Twitter: > <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> > > Skype: > <callto:mac-access-dot-net> > > ------------------------------ > > ======================================= > > To post to this group, please send your message to: > [email protected] > The Windows-Access E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free > > To modify your subscription options, please visit your personalise subscriber > options page, located at > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/windows-access > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Windows-Access forum at > either of the following websites: > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/windows-access/index.html > Or: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > > you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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