[Winona Online Democracy] Paul, your message reminded me of my days as a high school student in Duluth in the late 1940's. We had trolley buses that ran mostly East and West because Duluth is a long city along the shore of Lake Superior. The bus fare was 20 cents to go anywhere in Duluth or Superior. There was no student busing, but students could ride public transportation for 1/2 fare until about 8 pm. That cheap fare would be the equivalent of about $2.00 today. Buses ran about 15 minutes apart. Very few families owned even one car at that time. Those of us in athletics took advantage of the 1/2 fare after practices. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Double <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Online Democracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: FW: [Winona] mass transit
> [Winona Online Democracy] > > The schools move large numbers of kids daily and, I believe, the school > district is not paid to bus those who live under two miles by the state. > Rider ship is an important part of cost effective mass transit. Is there a > monthly pass that the schools could offer to increase use. There also use > to be a late bus for students in co-curricular activities. Would those > numbers help rider ship if later service was available? > > Years ago I did the math and discovered that unless one drives over 10,000 > miles per year, exclusive of trips, the cost of car ownership is much higher > than to use a cab. The cab gives you the convenience with no fixed schedule > but illustrates how many frivolous trips we might not make because we get > the bill each trip. > > Paul Double > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Clayton Templeton > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Winona] mass transit > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > Dean & others, > I wonder, is a city bus the only thing that makes sense for Winona? Are > there > other transit ideas that would work in our community better than it may in > others? Our size is small, the town is flat, would a tiny rail system > (built > partially alongside DM&E routes) make sense here? Would electric cars or > golf > carts that require a prepurchased mag stripe card make sense? Maybe crossing > busy streets would be too much of a risk for those with poor eyesight. How > about shuttle vans? How many passengers would it take to pay for 3 or 4 city > bus > lines running 17 hours a day? > > I don't believe that there is enough of a draw for shopping in town to keep > them > busy, but traffic to and from workplace may work. I have heard that there > is a > city bus that comes out to my neighborhood, but I've never seen it. Maybe > if it > was designed to run between 6 and 8:30am, then 3:30 and 6:30pm it would be > more > useful to more people. > > Clay Templeton > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Winona] People in Winona Do Have a Choice > > > Bikes may be a good alternative to gas consuming autos, but not everyone is > able > to take advantage of this choice. In particular, the elderly and the > disabled > may not have the same opportunity to bike around town that Dan does. > Another alternative to the private automobile that is sadly lacking in > Winona is > that of public transportation. > For a town of 35,000+ to have a bus service that only runs during the > daylight > hours, and goes into hibernation on weekends and several holidays is > ludicrous. > Many Winonans work evening and night shifts but they are not able to use > mass > transit to get to work. > Many more probably are forced to turn down employment opportunities because > they > do not have cars and the bus service is so poor. > Furthermore, it is next to impossible for the person without a car in Winona > to > attend a movie, a sporting event or go grocery shopping after 5PM. > Even in St. Cloud, a community just this side of purgatory, the buses ran > until > 9PM and on Saturday afternoons. > Dean Lanz > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona Any problems or suggestions can be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
