[Winona Online Democracy]

Goodness, David...if you feel that Winona has been forsaken by God, and that
it is not a "nice" place, perhaps you
have suggestions which would assist the city in becoming "nice", and which
would also invite God to visit here.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "K.C. O'Dea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Trucks VS Trains


> [Winona Online Democracy]
>
> On Thursday, Sep 25, 2003, at 18:14 US/Central, K.C. O'Dea wrote:
>
> > [Winona Online Democracy]
> >
> > David Dittman Wrote:
> > The Winona police department should receive the John Latsch, Human
> > Rights award for their efforts to curtail sound violence against
> > prissy white people's pansies from jake braking trucks, while ignoring
> > a real issue right outside the LEC; drivers not using their turn
> > signals. Those poor, oppressed, white people's pansies were whithering
> > to a miserable death from the noise, until the police department
> > valiantly stepped in and defended those poor oppressed pansies by
> > choosing to enforce local ordinances rather than state laws such as
> > 169.19 subd 5.
> >
> >
> >> What if the jake-braking trucks don't use their blinkers? My point
> >> being that our police department keeps Winona's crime rate low, and
> >> for that you should be thankful Mr. Dittman. Be glad you can live in
> >> a community where the police can, if they so desire, concentrate some
> >> of their efforts on issues that you seem to find trivial. And what
> >> about the more moderatly priced homes that run alongside the railroad
> >> tracks within the city. Are those people who complain about the noise
> >> from trains being "Pansies?"
> >
> > Michael O'Dea
>
> I do not care about low crime rates... If I am under attack more than
> once per day from Winona's moron drivers that have recently become
> worse than ever before, what does a low crime rate mean if I am dead
> under someone's tire, as a result from a situation that is completely
> preventable? The hard realty, a low crime rate means nothing in this
> situation.
>
> * Furthermore, does the Winona Police Department really keep the crime
> rate low? Could the crime rate be much higher due to items not being
> reported? Quite possibly underreporting is the case. Officially the
> crime rate is low compared to what?
>
> * Truckers are far better drivers than most of the fools with their
> cars. If Winona's drivers drove half as well as ninety-nine percent of
> truckers on the road they would be fifty times better than they are now.
>
> * FYI 169.19 subd 5 is the turn signal law.
>
> The cops sit their acting like they are making the roads safe with Tom
> Williams and his cute quotes. When in reality, they are doing nothing.
> NOTHING! A driver moving three miles an hour faster than the limit does
> not mean jack. Yet, this is all they seem to focus on in terms of road
> safety. To Tom's defence, DUI's were also mentioned, that is a plus,
> they affect others much more than other items, however the assertion of
> the speed threat compared to other items is total rubbish.
>
> * I did not call anyone a pansy. Perhaps, reading my comments would
> help resolve this. I said the pansies were being affected. When you
> criticise others check your facts. (You are of course excused from this
> requirement, if you work for US based media or press establishment
> since they have proved incapable of doing this themselves.)
>
> To answer your question, about who can complain more. The RR homeowners
> have more of a right to complain than the those complaining about
> trucks. IMO. I have put up with trucks and trains, both are minor
> issues (barring the effects of trains on traffic from Mankato Avenue
> which is a major issue.)
>
> Furthermore, if you criticise someone, spell their name right. It is
> quite disrespectful. It may make your comments more consumable.
> Criticism: Good, Spelling names wrong: Bad
>
> (As for this entire issue, I have commented about this issue before to
> receive pathetic lip service from the chief of police. Therefore the
> sarcasm is completely justifiable as nothing has been done and I am
> trying to bring more awareness to the issue. The only thing that has
> happened is everything that has been mentioned has intensified recently
> despite my reduction of miles in this God Forsaken place that some
> actually regard as a nice place. I fail to see why this is a nice place
> because Members of A Nice Place do not try to run its members down
> daily.
>
> I should also mention, the police certainly have enough time. (I should
> say more, but those with the time on the force already know what I am
> referring to and need no clarification.)
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/onlinedemocracy%40winona.org/msg01213.html
> )
>
>
> Have a nice day and do not get plucked by the pathetic drivers of
> downtown.
>
> ********************************************
> David Dittmann
> The Winona police department should receive the John Latsch, Human
> Rights award for their efforts to curtail sound violence against prissy
> white people's pansies from jake braking trucks while ignoring a real
> issue right outside the LEC, drivers not using their turn signals.
> Those poor, oppressed, white people's pansies were whithering to a
> miserable death from the noise, until the police department valiantly
> stepped in and defended those poor oppressed pansies by choosing to
> enforce local ordinances rather than state laws such as 169.19 subd 5.
>
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