Great!! I looked at the Vista page today and can see no reason to change from XP.
Thanks At 04:18 PM 3/9/2007, you wrote: >Mike..I saw where Microsoft indicated they were going to support WIN XP >until 2012 so that should not be too big a worry.. >Lloyd W3NF >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "winrad discussion list" <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:50 AM >Subject: Re: [Winrad] Winrad on Win95se > > > > Good Morning Leif & All: > > > > Leif, thanks for the note. Actually it was a combination of the > > two. I spent quite a bit of time(months) just trying to get to the > > point where I could get Linrad to run. There was some kind of a > > library needed to get the display to work properly. Some Linux > > distributions contained it, and some didn't. Once I finally figured > > out what I needed and got it downloaded, I couldn't figure out how to > > unzip and install it. After quite a while I finally figured out how > > to do that, then the dang thing said I didn't have permission to do > > something or the other; I don't remember exactly what. I never did > > figure out the permission thing, but somehow finally got Linrad to > > run; kinda. At that point the complexity of Linrad caved in on me and > > I just said screw it. I decided I could much more easily go through > > life without Linrad and go back to the relative simplicity of > > Windows, and wait for Winrad. > > > > At least in my mind, the decision was a good one. Yesterday I > > downloaded the latest version of Winrad, and sent the output of a 20 > > meter Softrock 5 to it. In a very short time I had things up and > > running. It works beautifully and my blood pressure was normal when > > I finished. I have a 96 kHz sample rate and bandwidth from a $25 > > Soundblaster Live(internal) audio card, all on a 900 mHz Athalon home > > brew machine. Success!! > > > > Regrettably, all of this bliss may come to an end if/when Microsoft > > stops supporting Win XP. So far I am unimpressed with Vista, and > > what I perceive as it's failure to support much of today's existing > > software. As you may already suspect, I believe in the KISS > > philosophy, and also in the idea that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". > > > > 73, > > Mike, W5UC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:28 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote: > >>Hello Mike, > >> > >> > I spent around 3 months in Linux Hell trying to get Linrad going > >> > and vowed that Linux would never again run on any machine I own. I > >> > plan to keep that vow. > >> > >> >From the conversations we had, only two mails in my files, > >>my impression is that you had no difficulties with Linux. > >>Everything was related to Linrad. > >> > >>Linrad is very different from Winrad, it is far more complicated > >>to use and it can be set up for many different purposes. From > >>what you wrote my impression is that you found Linrad useless > >>because it was too complicated - but that has nothing to do with > >>the operating system. You can run Linrad under Windows if you > >>want to avoid "Linux Hell" but it would have changed nothing. > >>Linrad behaves exactly the same and puts the same requirements > >>on the user regardless of the operating system. > >> > >>Linrad will allow reception of signals that you can not receive > >>with Winrad or any other receiver in case you have heavy powerline > >>noise at the same time as you have strong local signals close > >>in frequency. It does not come for free. Linrad is not mature > >>enough to do everything automatically for you. The reason is that > >>I am looking for usages that we not yet have the hardware for > >>and I have purpously made Linrad make no assumption about what > >>hardware the user might have connected. > >> > >>Generally Linux is far easier to install than Windows if you > >>have found a scrap computer with unknown hardware inside. > >>I have solid experience with Linux, Win 98 and Win 2000. > >>To make Windows work one has to find out what the hardware > >>really is, then one might be lucky to find drivers on > >>the Internet. With Linux everything is usually included > >>and installed automatically. It is of course very > >>different with new computers where the manufacturer > >>supplies a CD with Windows drivers for exactly the > >>hardware you bought. Linux may not have them (yet) and > >>that is surely a problem. > >> > >>Have a look here: > >>http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/install/distrib.htm > >>Linrad runs under every Linux distribution that I have > >>tested (29 of them) and I have no reason to believe > >>it would not run on any other distribution. I have > >>tried several computers from Pentium 133 MHz up to > >>modern ones. Surely there are difficulties in > >>installing modern Linux distributions on old > >>computers that do not have enough memory - but > >>Windows is not difficult, it is simply impossible. > >> > >>Linux has better real-time properties as compared to > >>Windows 2000 (and Win 98 is bad) I only have Windows XP > >>on modern laptops so I do not know if it is better. > >>(I refuse to pay for making a test with XP on elderly > >>computers) On modern computers any operating system > >>is perfectly adequate for SDR at bandwidths of 100 > >>kHz and below so it does not really matter. > >> > >>I do not think the OS as such is much of a problem. > >>The real problem is how to find well working drive > >>routines for the better hardware that we will get > >>in the future. If manufacturers decide to keep the > >>internal architecture secret and just supply a CD > >>with drivers for Windows Vista we will have to > >>use it until we have software that emulates Vista > >>for the drive routines. This is what we have to do > >>to make modern WLAN cards work under Linux..... > >> > >>73 > >> > >>Leif / SM5BSZ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Winrad mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: > >>3/7/2007 9:24 AM > > > > "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" > > http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Winrad mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 > > 10:58 AM > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Winrad mailing list >[email protected] >http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: >3/8/2007 10:58 AM "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ _______________________________________________ Winrad mailing list [email protected] http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org
