Mike..I saw where Microsoft indicated they were going to support WIN XP until 2012 so that should not be too big a worry.. Lloyd W3NF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "winrad discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Winrad] Winrad on Win95se
> Good Morning Leif & All: > > Leif, thanks for the note. Actually it was a combination of the > two. I spent quite a bit of time(months) just trying to get to the > point where I could get Linrad to run. There was some kind of a > library needed to get the display to work properly. Some Linux > distributions contained it, and some didn't. Once I finally figured > out what I needed and got it downloaded, I couldn't figure out how to > unzip and install it. After quite a while I finally figured out how > to do that, then the dang thing said I didn't have permission to do > something or the other; I don't remember exactly what. I never did > figure out the permission thing, but somehow finally got Linrad to > run; kinda. At that point the complexity of Linrad caved in on me and > I just said screw it. I decided I could much more easily go through > life without Linrad and go back to the relative simplicity of > Windows, and wait for Winrad. > > At least in my mind, the decision was a good one. Yesterday I > downloaded the latest version of Winrad, and sent the output of a 20 > meter Softrock 5 to it. In a very short time I had things up and > running. It works beautifully and my blood pressure was normal when > I finished. I have a 96 kHz sample rate and bandwidth from a $25 > Soundblaster Live(internal) audio card, all on a 900 mHz Athalon home > brew machine. Success!! > > Regrettably, all of this bliss may come to an end if/when Microsoft > stops supporting Win XP. So far I am unimpressed with Vista, and > what I perceive as it's failure to support much of today's existing > software. As you may already suspect, I believe in the KISS > philosophy, and also in the idea that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". > > 73, > Mike, W5UC > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:28 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote: >>Hello Mike, >> >> > I spent around 3 months in Linux Hell trying to get Linrad going >> > and vowed that Linux would never again run on any machine I own. I >> > plan to keep that vow. >> >> >From the conversations we had, only two mails in my files, >>my impression is that you had no difficulties with Linux. >>Everything was related to Linrad. >> >>Linrad is very different from Winrad, it is far more complicated >>to use and it can be set up for many different purposes. From >>what you wrote my impression is that you found Linrad useless >>because it was too complicated - but that has nothing to do with >>the operating system. You can run Linrad under Windows if you >>want to avoid "Linux Hell" but it would have changed nothing. >>Linrad behaves exactly the same and puts the same requirements >>on the user regardless of the operating system. >> >>Linrad will allow reception of signals that you can not receive >>with Winrad or any other receiver in case you have heavy powerline >>noise at the same time as you have strong local signals close >>in frequency. It does not come for free. Linrad is not mature >>enough to do everything automatically for you. The reason is that >>I am looking for usages that we not yet have the hardware for >>and I have purpously made Linrad make no assumption about what >>hardware the user might have connected. >> >>Generally Linux is far easier to install than Windows if you >>have found a scrap computer with unknown hardware inside. >>I have solid experience with Linux, Win 98 and Win 2000. >>To make Windows work one has to find out what the hardware >>really is, then one might be lucky to find drivers on >>the Internet. With Linux everything is usually included >>and installed automatically. It is of course very >>different with new computers where the manufacturer >>supplies a CD with Windows drivers for exactly the >>hardware you bought. Linux may not have them (yet) and >>that is surely a problem. >> >>Have a look here: >>http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/install/distrib.htm >>Linrad runs under every Linux distribution that I have >>tested (29 of them) and I have no reason to believe >>it would not run on any other distribution. I have >>tried several computers from Pentium 133 MHz up to >>modern ones. Surely there are difficulties in >>installing modern Linux distributions on old >>computers that do not have enough memory - but >>Windows is not difficult, it is simply impossible. >> >>Linux has better real-time properties as compared to >>Windows 2000 (and Win 98 is bad) I only have Windows XP >>on modern laptops so I do not know if it is better. >>(I refuse to pay for making a test with XP on elderly >>computers) On modern computers any operating system >>is perfectly adequate for SDR at bandwidths of 100 >>kHz and below so it does not really matter. >> >>I do not think the OS as such is much of a problem. >>The real problem is how to find well working drive >>routines for the better hardware that we will get >>in the future. If manufacturers decide to keep the >>internal architecture secret and just supply a CD >>with drivers for Windows Vista we will have to >>use it until we have software that emulates Vista >>for the drive routines. This is what we have to do >>to make modern WLAN cards work under Linux..... >> >>73 >> >>Leif / SM5BSZ >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Winrad mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: >>3/7/2007 9:24 AM > > "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" > http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Winrad mailing list > [email protected] > http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 > 10:58 AM > > _______________________________________________ Winrad mailing list [email protected] http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org
