Just a follow on,

There are two type of client devices - 2.4GHz and Both (2.4Ghz and 5GHz)!
There are very few 5Ghz only client devices as 2.4Ghz will be for some time 
(our lives) the lowest common denominator for Wi-Fi

It is 2.4GHz only if it says
11b
11b/g
11b/g/n

It’s both 2.4 & 5Ghz if it says
11a
11a/b
11a/g
11a/b/g
11a/b/g/n
11a/b/g/n/ac
11ac

Yes there are one offs but you can go to the bank with the above info

Perry



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?

B-G-N is 2.4 only, by definition. AC must support 5-Gig

​​​​​You have been away from the wireless world for too long.   :D

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From: Philippe Hanset [mailto:phan...@anyroam.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?

My ears have been burning…

I understand Hector's comment about the spirit of eduroam, but like Ryan I have 
also be tempted in the past to only support 5 GHz in certain areas
because 2.4 GHz was becoming too much of a pain (e.g. Dormitories).  The 
eduroam Compliance Statement requires 802.11, no frequency mentioned.

eduroam users with 2.4GHz devices will just not see the available SSID if a 
school decides to only offer it at 5 GHz in certain locations.
In a sense it is no different than schools only offering eduroam in certain 
locations.

Now, if the entire eduroam SSID for all locations at the school is on 5 GHz, it 
might be challenging.

But how many clients REALLY can’t support 5 GHz?
The stats showing 2.4 GHz VS 5 GHz usage can be deceiving. Is it a client with 
both radios and a poor selection of spectrum,
or is it really 2.4 Ghz only capable devices? It seems that the best way to 
know if 5 GHz only is fine for your community is to “just do it”.

I checked cheap laptops at BestBuy and under specifications you find 
“Wireless-AC” or “Wireless-B, G, N". No reference to the type of radio.
Those darn marketing people, they will get you every time.

Philippe

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On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Turner, Ryan H 
<rhtur...@email.unc.edu<mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

I don't think so.  I think anytime a university enforces a uniform policy that 
applies to all folks, it shouldn't be an issue.  Of course, we are a long way 
from actually doing this.  We'll involve Phillipe if we move forward.
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:01 AM -0700, "Hector J Rios" 
<hr...@lsu.edu<mailto:hr...@lsu.edu>> wrote:
I would go back to Jason's comment and reference eduroam's policy. I personally 
think that only allowing 5GHz on eduroam goes against the spirit the global 
availability of eduroam. My 2 cents.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:27:04PM +0000, Joseph M. Karam wrote:
> We offer 2.4 and 5 GHz service.  When we have conflicts, we work with
> departments to give them a channel in the 2.4 GHz space, then we take
> that channel out of our central infrastructure.
> So, for example we gave engineering channel 6 for all of their labs,
> and we took that out of our central infrastructure.  So far it has
> worked well and we can play together nicely

What do you do after you've given the last remaining free 2.4Ghz channel to the 
third department that requests one and you've got none left for yourselves?

And presumably Engineering have lots of CCI because all of their APs are on the 
same frequency?

Not critcising, just trying to understand! :)

Matthew


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