I have been following this dialogue with interest. (I'm at a trade event
currently, so my response time is limited. I'll offer a fuller post once the
event is complete.) Regarding the plugfest tests, there is no reason for the
WiMAX Forum to wait until availability of the Intel chip. Remember that
vendors like us have been building our own ASIC for this for years and there
are other chipset vendors such as Fujitsu and Wavesat. To be sure Intel is
the leading driver, but the absence of their chipset does not preclude
testing for conformance to WiMAX Forum(tm) chosen profiles. The early
entrants in the plugfests will be those who have been working on their own,
creating internally developed systems. Once the Intel chipsets are there
though, that will dramatically accelerate the number of firms able to offer
products (maily CPEs).

Also, while 802.16a is complete, by itself it offers no benefits with
respect to assured interoperability and the subsequent cost reduction hoped
resulting from the mass adoption. It is too broad a standard and too prone
to marketing abuses. For example, one could have a 9GHz single carrier-based
product that could be compliant with 802.16a. Such a product could actually
be marketed as an 802.16a compliant product. But such a product could never
be a WiMAX-certified(tm) product, nor could it ever hope to offer its buyers
interoperability with other 802.16a products. In other words, it would be,
in practical terms, a proprietary product eventhough it might be technically
standards-compliant. That is why the "WiMAX-certified" label will be so
important -- much more important than the Wi-Fi Alliance certification.

Kind regards,

Patrick Leary
Assistant VP, Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
ph. 760.517.3114
cell 760.580.0080
fax 760.517.3200
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-----Original Message-----
From: Moebius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:44 PM
To: 'Glenn Fleishman'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Re: WiMAx and BreezeMax


I believe the 802.16a standard is complete.. i.e. 3.5Ghz 802.16a silicon is
shipping.. You can buy the Redline AN-100 and Alvarion BreezeMax systems in
Europe.. so 802.16a is shipping, its just not the Intel chipset that is
shipping, and of course the US hasn't allowed the 3.5Ghz band yet that the
current silicon is built for so nobody has access to it here..

I would guess its not WiMax certified because they haven't done the lab
shootout of different vendors equipment yet and are waiting for the intel
chipset to do this..

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Fleishman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:38 PM
To: Moebius
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Re: WiMAx and BreezeMax

Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 6/21/04 at 4:33 PM wrote:

>Also the Current Breezemax equipment doesn't use the Intel chipset.. You
>don't have to do business with intel to be part of the WiMax community. 

That's part of the subtext here, surely. The Alvarion folks were waiting for
Intel to pony up the WiMax chipset, and it's delayed until 2005. Intel can
hardly carp about Alvarion selling equipment that Alvarion is committing to
-- contractually, based on what I've heard -- to upgrade to WiMax certified
standards no matter what it takes even if Intel wants to believe they
control the WiMax mark, which they don't.

I'll be curious whether the WiMax group actually issues standards for
pre-WiMax labeling. Will they say "no, not at all, can't say, have to say
802.16a or nothing else" or will they allow claims if the company's put in
writing a commitment to upgrade all software, firmware, and hardware (as
necessary) to WiMax when it ships?
--
Glenn Fleishman
seattle . washington
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