I sure am not going to take anyone's money. :) Too bad you don't use 900, that is what I am trying to use to get this started. If you could set us a list asap, that would be great. Then we could add a dozen or so people to the list (people trusted and known)and talk about the details.

A. Huppenthal wrote:

It'll work, you just do it. The details are all bulls*it.

Set up a closed email list for people who are interested. If you can wait a week or two I can setup an email list for that, if you like. People who aren't interested are going to give you one million reason why the earth is flat, or whatever their view is.

My only concern is that someone gets screwed because there is a liar, cheat, thief in the process. Else, its cheap gear for cheap prices that *works*. However, if your don't know that, likely you'll need an AP. hmmm... if anyone wants to borrow a 5.7 AP from me, you can. I'll lend it out for a week, you pay the post both ways and *if* it come back broken, *you* agree to replace it in 10 days with a working one. Turns out i have enough canopy stuff until late Jan. Contact me off-list if you like. Frankly if the group buy guy wants to handle loaners to the membership/group that's find with me. I'll toss $100 in the kitty toward 4 loaner APs - a 5.2, 5.7, 2.4 (junk) and 900 mhz (I'll never use).. Got a paypal account, I'll send the money now.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Basically what I propose (in a nutshell) is going to a the distrobuters and saying this. I have ten or twenty or whatever WISPs and we all want to buy ten units of *insert brand here* and have them all shipped to different addresses and charged to different accounts. What are you willing to do to accomidate us? I know there are a number of distobuters out there. Ones that do millions worth of gear all the way down to ones that operate WISPs and became resellers of the gear they use in order to get their volume up. If ten people can install ten a month. That is 1200 a year. If we look, I bet there is a reseller somewhere who wants to increase volume by 1200 a year. 5k a year wouldn't be stretching the imagination too far either.

Am I dumb here guys?  Why wouldn't this work?

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I fully second your post.
Well said.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.

We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and
getting a T1 line

Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing)
than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP

Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group
faces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given that the
buying group has no / limited credit, chances are that any vendor will
require cash up front for the purchase

So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the product WISPA chooses
Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ $100k to purchase that 500
pack (at say, $200 / unit for simplicity's sake)
Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a warehouse to store stuff Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a shipper/logistics guy to
repackage / ship stuff

On top of that, chances are, 50% of the WISPs who committed to purchasing the packs will renege and/or delay their deliveries due to unforseen things that always happen in deployments (e.g., lightning, customers don't sign
on, interference from competitor, DSL coming to town)

So now, WISPA / Buying Group needs to hire a sales guy to sell excess units

Now, you've added overhead (and you need to add an administrative fee /
margin to compensate)

In the meantime, either

1. Motorola to announce a 50% price reduction in their Canopy line, and all
WISPA members now wanting the new lower price (therefore causing a huge
2. Trango (or some other company) to come out w/ the new "flavor of the
month" and no one wanting the inventory anymore, sticking WISPA w/ $100k
worth of boat anchors


Technology Architects

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC
Cell 269-838-8338

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