I did it to expose the problems associated with 802.11b/g which is a technology that was NOT designed for what it is being used for today. I think several people on the list realized what tricks can be done with the SSID and now they are smarter because I posted it. The whole point of the post is that you need to use a proprietary solution that was designed for WISP usage. If you were a professional WISP you would be using such solution and thus YOU and YOUR customers would not be subject to someone doing this to you.
Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Virtual AP Kurt Your killing me. This has to be the lowest underhanded thing I've heard on these list from a fellow wisp. The goal to win is a fine goal, but winning by cheating is not a win at all, it's an admission of failure. You need to understand that integrity and success go hand in hand. Shaking my head. George And I only let you off lightly because your a young kid, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I do that too, 3 competitors have towers all within ¼ mile of each > other, I put their ssid in my AP but turn the broadcast off, their > clients associate to me and I deny all their access so when they try to > hook up customers it looks like their connected but they cant figure out > why it doesnt work, keeps them from signing up clients in my area. > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > > WAVELINC > > 114 S. Walnut St. > > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > 419-562-6405 > > www.wavelinc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *On Behalf Of *Rick Smith > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:12 AM > *To:* 'WISPA General List' > *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP > > > > actually, I was kidding about the competitor thing, wanted to see if > it'd start a fire. It's something I'd thought of, but you can't route > based on Virtual AP SSID > > > > Having an invididual hotspot page per virtual SSID would be cool, on a > wholesale level... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:44 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP > > What happens when a potential customer sees the competition's name? They > call the competitor who says, "We don't do that." Then what, do you get > called by the competitor? > I guess my question is, how does advertising the competitor's name help > you? > > I like the wholesale idea though. I may have to pursue that in the future. > > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/> > > The season is Christmas, not X-mas, not the holiday, but Christmas, because > Christ was born to provide salvation to all who will believe! > > *---------- Original Message -----------* > From: Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:15:08 -0500 > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP > >> Yep, I create virtual SSIDs for all my competitors names (they only do > DSL) :) >> >> I also wholesale service off one of my towers via 2.4 and 900 mhz to a > local computer guy that likes to see his name "in the air" - >> the virtual SSID thing was a natural win... >> >> Not sure about the broadcast thing...haven't seen a performance hit > because of the virtual ssid's ... >> R >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Pete Davis >> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:57 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Virtual AP >> >> Mikrotik APs have the capability to create a "Virtual AP" with a > secondary SSID, but I haven't found much documentation about it. >> >> Has anyone used this feature much? I could see this being useful > during a transitional period, while you are changing the SSID, so >> you can access the CPE with the "old" ssid. >> I could also see this being useful for colocating two companies on the > same tower/AP, like if you have an ISP geared toward >> residential service, and another company name/marketing scheme for > business customers. >> I don't know what kind of performance impact there is when you create > a bunch of APs on one radio. >> >> I had a wierd thought about this, however: If I have 40 clients on an > AP, and set up 40 "virtual AP's" on the network with each >> client on his own SSID, do they count as 40 PTP links, allowing me to > kick up the antenna gain like with the CPE? >> >> Does the virtual AP really broadcast a secondary SSID, or does it > switch between the two rapidly, kind of like a poor man's Time >> Division Multiplexing. >> >> Pete Davis >> NoDial.net >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: > 12/23/2005 >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: > 12/23/2005 >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > *------- End of Original Message -------* > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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