----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's been a long road


> Last time I checked, the USDA and other government organizations do not
> care whether you guys want government subsidies/regulations or not. They
> are coming. The real question is this, who is going to get the money?

I disagree on this...   The real question is not who gets the money... but
what it will cost you to get it.

What regulatory burdens will it cost us?   Will the efforts by a few to get
it result in all of us getting expensive regulations imposed?   Believe me,
the telcos are jumping with glee at the idea of us getting burdened by thier
load.   They want our business advantages gone, and the idea of jumping into
the USF game and not resisting the notion that broadband connections are
illegal unless "registered" with the FCC is just one more nail in our
coffins.

We will NEVER "win" by "playing the game", we'll only survive if we manage
to fight them off.    The big money interests will win the fight, and we're
not it, thus, don't play that game.  Our best efforts I believe will be ones
to remain unregulated, and proving that it is in the FCC's interest to keep
it that way.   Get the telco's money via USF?   Oh, a passing interest might
result in some, but if it results in me getting the regulatory burdens so a
handful of us get the money...   That's not something we should be for.

> What will the new regulations say? The idealistic views of saying we
> want government to stay out of our business is futile at this point.

Why?   If it's futile to say "don't regulate", then it is also futile to
sign up, roll over, play dead, and invite our deaths.

> Wake up and smell the special interest coffee brewing guys. The Congress
> is tooling up for a telecommunications act re-write. A whole new
> ballgame is about to start. If you want the policies to represent your
> interests at all you better resign yourselves to knowing you have to
> play ball. Otherwise your opinions on this do not count.

The only interests I need is for them to stay as far away from me as
possible.   I don't HAVE to have USF funds, or USDA grants or auctioned
spectrum.



> Scriv
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
> >You sound like some democrat living in suburbia, gimmie gimmie gimmie, I
> >want all this free money but don't want to pay taxes. You can build a
> >successful WISP without having some sort of handout.
> >
> >Kurt Fankhauser
> >WAVELINC
> >114 S. Walnut St.
> >Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >419-562-6405
> >www.wavelinc.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >Behalf Of Rick Smith
> >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:51 PM
> >To: WISPA General List
> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's been a long road
> >
> >
> >I know you all will say "no, no, no!" but I'm saying "taxes, taxes,
> >taxes are coming if we fill in those forms".
> >
> >Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> >>Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:15 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's been a long road
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I agree with the need to register broadband operations in the US. I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I can't imagine why.   There isn't a single good thing to come from it.
> >>Bribing the govenrment by giving them more than they need is
> >>counterproductive.  You never get what you want and you get lots you
> >>
> >>
> >don't
> >
> >
> >>want.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>think it needs to be done. I would not agree with using this
> >>>
> >>>
> >information
> >
> >
> >>>to do anything bad. It is a difference of opinion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Giving it to uncle sam is inherently bad.   It is the duty of any
> >>
> >>
> >republic
> >
> >
> >>to keep government in check and deprived of as much money and
> >>
> >>
> >information as
> >
> >
> >>possible.    Government is not the provider of the people, it is not
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>friend of the people.  It is to be our servant and subservient to us,
> >>
> >>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>the one we have is violating every aspect of that notion...and now you
> >>
> >>
> >want
> >
> >
> >>it to stray even farther into my life.
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> >>>Scriv
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