I don't understand your point about "selling on margins". I was merely asking for a "wholesale" product that was priced less than RETAIL.
Nothing more, nothing less. I have yet to figure out how it is all the "wholesale" products are currently anywhere between 10 and 100% more than the current retail offerings. There's no "margin" in that, unless I'm supposed to subsidize VOIP service with my WISP revenue, which is the reverse notion of more revenue per customer. I didn't say I wanted a "fat" margin. I just said I wanted something I could bundle with my data service that didn't cost me more than retail to get, which is why I'm a bit taken back at the notion that wholesale costs more than retail. If that' whining, in your view, I'd say your view was a little strange. As best I can tell, the biggest costs for VOIP are the infrastructure and customer service. I merely wanted to make the unusual split of dealing with customer service myself, but farming out the infrastructure. Nobody seems to be interested in doing that, and I'm not sure why. Lots of ISP's are outsourcing customer service, and seemingly it has advantages, one would naturally assume this is true of the VOIP business, but, hey, maybe not. The infrastructure, as best I can tell, is the most cost effective to scale upwards, more so than customer service. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "warped.terranova.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations > "they want their cake and eat it too".. exactly. Either run your own > Asterisk server with PSTN gateway or figure out how to sell on margins and > stop whining. > > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > > >> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move > >> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable > >> for me > >> to do. Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find. > >> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP > >> system > >> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" > >> programs. > >> > >> > >> > > Maybe you stumbled upon the fact that no one offers what you want > > because it isn't cost effective to do so. As much as we try to wholesale > > our VoIP offers to other WISPs, they want their cake and eat it too. > > Being an ISP or for that matter a VoIP provider requires either relying > > on others' infrastructure, making thin margins, and making it up in > > volume or building out your own infrastructure and making great margins. > > There really is no in-between. > > > > -Matt > -- > WISPA Wireless List: email@example.com > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: firstname.lastname@example.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/