I'll give you that, but when someone responds to my query for input with
a "forget them, we do it better / cheaper and there's no reason for any
other call centers", I take offense..

Ah well, that's business, but I sure would've liked this thread to be a
little more conversational...


Rick Harnish wrote:

Please take no offense to this reply.  I haven't really been following this
thread until your last one and I read it because I enjoy reading your posts.

I reviewed your first post and the thread that followed.  You did ask for
input in your first post.

"Any input ?"

We do live in a free market economy and if someone is already doing this
cheaper than what your business plan is set for, is it totally wrong for
them to point it out?  Does that mean that you can't "do it better" at a
higher price?  As pointed out in other threads recently, cheaper is not
normally better.  If you are looking at a new business venture, your
research should generate an awareness of what other businesses are charging
and what kind of service that price includes.  If you think you can go head
to head and garner a market niche of WISPs as a WISPA member, then I think
you should give it a whirl.  As far as I know, Ron Johnson is not a paid
WISPA member.  If I were to choose a company as a wireless support center, I
would definitely weigh WISPA membership and experience heavily when making
my decision.

Maybe I am reading Ron's post in a different light than you are but I didn't
really see any strong attack on your post.  He merely pointed out that he is
in the business to do this and he is cheaper.  That in no way means the
other members of this list are going to flock to him for a solution.
I'm sure I will draw criticism from some whichever side of the fence I take
here.  I think it is a good topic to discuss and for that reason, I will
allow the thread to continue.  I personally will find it interesting to know
what it takes to run a call center.

Rick Harnish
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP

-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

Ya know Ron, that was uncalled for.

Wow, ripped apart on-list.  Great atmosphere for getting some feedback
on a business idea.
Never again.

Hey Harnish, how about that ?   Argh.

Ron Johnson wrote:

We have been support ISPs for over 10 years. Dialup, Cable, DSL, or
wireless. Yes it can get complicated. But then again it is our business to
know how to get the job done.

Give me a call if we can help you with your Tech support and Customer
service calls

O BTW we price ours at a much better rate that these guys you are talking

Ron Johnson
President National Support Center Inc.

-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 6:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

Google GTC tech support. They are reasonable.  Level 1 and level 2 techs
allow them to get their costs down.  If you have something specifically for
wisps that would be more valuable.

But there is a lot involved in doing this on. As a new customer of yours, I
would expect you to familiarize your techs with my way of doing things so
you can be useful for my customers when they call.

My business partner owns a call center and we have looked at doing this a
little without much interest in taking the plunge to do it.

GTC had a hefty startup fee (I think it was $5k) to have one of their
managers get familiar with my system and develop training for their L1 & L2
techs.  Then they took the number of subscribers we had and made the base
monthly fee ($1 x # of subs).  That gives you (1 minute x # of subs) of
'tech time' per month.  Any overage would be about $.60 per minute for that

Not a bad deal.  I didn't feel that the diversity of my system lent itself
well to a 3rd party tech support at the time, and since then everything I
have chosen to deploy has had a consideration given to 'Call Center Tech
Support'.  Whether we do the tech support or not, it is worth it to spend
time and money to streamline tech support methods so we can hire support
personnel that are further down on the food chain.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:04:12 To:WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

I have a customer that just installed a $100k phone system and is lookin for other uses.

Having experience in both call center mangement and tech support department
creation / operations and management, I've got half a mind to sit a couple of
technical people down and start up a technical support call center and
answering service, with WISPs and ISPs in mind...

I've seen outrageous prices for this service, when lookin for my own business, and could probably beat a lot of pricing out there just by leveraging my sister
company's purchase...

Any input ? How much is too much when it comes to per call / per minute charges, etc....

Feedback would be great, and WISPA members would get discounts for using the service...


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