----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?
> You have enough clients that it would bankrupt you to build a server to log > your HTTP & SMTP traffic? I don't think it would be that difficult or > expensive, but agree that it would be a major PITA! I am pretty sure we will > never be faced with this as the majority of us aren't reliable enough to > even set this up nor responsible enough to keep up with it reliably for two > years. How many customers ya got, Mac? Mine use around 3-4 gigs a month of traffic. I dunno what you're thinking, but they wanted us to log the CONTENT of all that traffic, meaning...we're going to dupe all the traffic on our network, time-stamped and tagged as to who did what, for 2 years - searchable by site, IP, destination, or possibly by content, as well. When it hits scores or hundreds of Terabytes to log it for 2 years... Plus the ability to backhaul ALL of your traffic to a data storage site... Or a bunch of data storage sites, when we have wide-spread and unconnected networks... It means that WISP's will get hammered like you've never seen. Heck, just the traffic from my database machine to the gateway for 45 customers logged in excess of 2 gigs / mo and all it did was collect statistics on the amount of traffic per customer. Given, that's a worst-case scenario... but we're not exactly batting good at all lately. And should we get a "D" administration or majority control, we're going to find that this would be a "best" case, not worst case. Their intrusion plans are WAY worse. Frankly, I'm disgusted. A lot of people who I thought were sensible people have rushed headlong with welcoming arms to the regulators, all in HOPES of catching a few dollars falling from the table. Let's just say I'm not cynical. I'm livid, and have been for quite some time now. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > Mac Dearman > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:34 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? > > Common sense tells you that the big boys will lobby to force the last mile > provider to log it all, so as to bankrupt the competition. > > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > - > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:21 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? > > > > I wouldn't imagine that this responsibility would fall on us WISPs, but to > > our upstream providers like BellSouth...etc. Why would they want to deal > > with the 20,000 piss ants of the world when all they have to do is back up > > stream two hops and catch all the traffic? Common sense tells me this will > > not fall on us! > > > > > > Mac > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki > > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 1:19 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060601/ts_nm/security_internet_usa_dc > > > > Why aren't we fighting tooth and nail to stop this kinda stuff? > > > > Or, is this issue like certain others, where WISPA founders take contrary > > positions to the rest of the members and side with big brother and > encourage > > the feds to dig into and regulate our business, in some apparent hope of > > ingratiating themselves with the regulators? > > > > AT LEAST could we have the leadership tell us what THEY think of this? > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > - > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
