----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:51 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
> Right guys, I accept all that may be true but even in the DSL world, > customers provide their own routers and that is certainly true of > commercial customers. What planet do you live on? Every DSL service I have seen in a LONG time provides the dsl modem and router together as one device. > > In any event, VL does many of things for which you think make a router > so critical. Even better, it does a lot of them at the RF level which > makes the link and total network more efficient. Frankly though, I need > one of my engineers in this type conversation; I'm just not technically > competent enough on the networking side (and barely so in the nitty > gritty of the RF side). You can't do routing, dhcp, firewalling, etc, at the RF level. > > At the same token, many here that are truly skilled remain under exposed > on the RF side since most have not used truly sophisticated gear that > allows for depths of tweaking beyond that which you have experienced. What I use may not be "sophisticated" by your standards. But if we look at the overall picture, attaching that high priced RF equipment to a linksys router is like transplanting a pinto engine and gas tank into a humvee... Frankly, I can't find that elusive "somewhere between linksys and belkin" and the other end where "imagestream and cisco" live - well, except for what I use... Which costs less and is dead reliable and excellent performing. I > have never encountered an old hand who, once thoroughly exposed to our > firmware in a scaled system, did not say something along the lines of, > "Wow, I did not know that sort of thing could be even be done!" or "You > mean that's all we have to do to do that? That always took me hours > before!" Basically, I think many of you have trained and become good > street racers, but you've not yet become real race car drivers because > you are still driving souped up street cars not realizing a real race > car actually IS different. Certainly most of us who deal with wifi-based gear are very much aware of the limitations of the rf side of this setup. It's no mystery, Patrick and I think you grossly underestimate what we understand in that regard. Perhaps alvarion c ould get into the business of providing a REAL mini-pci radio, certified with various antennas, and then we'd have the better of both worlds... > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of George Rogato > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients... > > > > Butch Evans wrote: > It is my contention (and yours, it seems) that a router > > at the CPE is necessary. > > > > BINGO. > > Qwest DSL has a router at every customer. Ever taken a look at what > those Actiontec wireless dsl routers do... > > As we stated in an earlier thread, those pesky routers matter more than > our cpes, to the customer. > > > -- > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > ************************************************************************ > ************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer viruses(190). > ************************************************************************ > ************ > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************ > ************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer viruses(43). > ************************************************************************ > ************ > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** ******** > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > **************************************************************************** ******** > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
