I'm with you Marlon. I support your position. However, if I am all the support you have you better use a cane. Ron Wallace
>-----Original Message----- >From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 04:36 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi > >Sigh. > >First, the mission statement for WISPA, just so's we're all on the same page >about motivations: >Wireless Internet Service Providers Association is dedicated to promoting >and improving the WISP industry. > >Second, if you don't like it, join us in our efforts at the regulatory >level. Sitting out there whining and tossing FUD around does nothing but >waste our time and keep you from doing installations so that you can get >more than $100 in the bank. > >Third, WE don't REALLY know EXACTLY what WE have to do. That's part of what >the FBI meeting is about. It's not about kowtowing to the FBI, DOJ, FCC >etc. It's about making sure that WE can tell YOU what is going to keep your >tit out of the ringer with those people. It's also about working with them >to make sure that they don't expect things that are unreasonable or pass new >regs that have no regard for the realities of our industry niche. > >Fourth, certainly I know I'm not speaking for all WISPs. I'm speaking for >WISPA. YOU get to choose whether or not you wish to agree. You can always >file a statement saying you don't agree and why. The FCC loves to hear from >us. Last I knew the IEEE never asked for my opinion on a standard they put >in place, but I use them all day every day anyhow. > >Fifth, if we come up with a standard that you don't like, don't use it. >Duh. There is no requirement, no way to make a requirement, nor should >there be, for WISPA to force you to follow us. Feel free to follow any >organization, start a new one, whatever. > >Sixth, don't be an ass. We're putting in our own time and usually our own >money to help make this entire industry better. I don't care to be insulted >for the privilege of taking away from my customers and my family. > >Seventh, I don't disagree with that you've said. I also think that the >seatbelt laws are so much BS. But I've paid enough tickets for not wearing >one that I have given in and wear mine now. In the mean time, one of these >days I'm gonna run for Congress and I'll work to restore individual rights >and responsibility. Till then I'll do the best I can to vote for people >that respect my ability to lead my own life and my own choices. I'll also >follow their dumb a$$ed rules so that I don't go broke paying tickets or end >up in jail over it. > >Eighth, some of the things that you say people don't have to do, the lawyers >constantly say that we do. Sorry, but I'm gonna put my weight on their >interpretations of the rules than yours. > >Take care, >Marlon >(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services >42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:22 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi > > >> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:35:29 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote >>> Hi All, >>> >>> We have a meeting set up for the 22nd in Va. I have 4 people set >>> to go to it at this time but I'd like a 5th. I'm after a network >>> admin type. Anyone have the time and recourses available? Or if >>> I missed your offer earlier, please let me know. >>> >>> I have to get info to the FBI ASAP so if you can send a network >>> admin to this meeting (and possibly join our calea standards >>> committee) please let me know. >>> >>> WISPA member companies will have first crack at this, but I'll conceder >>> others as well. >> >> While you're there... or, perhaps on your way there, please consider the >> fact >> that you and whoever is meeting there are deciding how every other WISP >> will >> structure his network and what they will be forced to spend or do. You >> will...or will not... set a standard, and then the FCC and FBI will...or >> will >> not...accept it, and everyone who has filed that they will be compliant >> persuant standards discussions will be obligated to do what is laid out in >> the end. You're a pretty bright guy, Marlon, and I suspect it won't take >> very long to see what direction this will head. You will be playing with >> the >> fates of a lot of people who did not choose this in ANY way. >> >> I haven't filed, because I cannot say I can or cannot comply. However, if >> this costs more than $100 to implement (that's all I have in the bank at >> this >> moment), I will simply file stating I cannot and will not comply, period. >> >> If the FCC then desires to shut me down then, They will have to do so >> forcibly. I will simply write a letter to all my customers, local >> newspapers, >> and state simply that the FCC has decided to take over all internet >> communications in a few months, and that there's no room left for small >> operations, and reccommend that they direct all questions to the FCC about >> why thier internet service will be no more. I will cause them more grief >> and >> bury their office in irate phone calls and letters than they can possibly >> handle. I know several sites where I can reach millions who WILL be >> activists, if we're not going to act. I'm absolutely positive they have >> NEVER even considered the notion (and probably do not care in the >> slightest) >> that what they do could devastate people's individual lives or futures. >> Nor >> do I think they care at all about anything but their own convenience and >> political futures. I doubt a single person involved on the regulator's >> end >> considers that since they decided to take on and regulate an industry >> which >> is probably populated with the highest percentage of small operators (1 to >> 5 >> people) of any industry they've ever even dreamed of regulating, what they >> do >> is PERSONAL to thousands of people, and directly will impact the lives of >> hundreds of thousands of other individuals. Living in the isolated and >> unreal world of Washington DC does that to people. >> >> I suggest you pass this on to the FCC and FBI, along with my estimation >> that >> at least 20% of all small operators will do exactly the same. I am SICK >> AND >> TIRED of being fed to the wolves without the slightest resistance. You, >> of >> all people, should know what it means to be a small, one or two man >> operation >> living out in the hinterland, where the rubber meets the road. There will >> be >> small and casual networks, small community and free networks, small joint >> efforts by a few people to get for themselves what they have a right to >> get. >> All possibly being wiped out by careless and overreaching federal >> agencies. >> Who's gonna stick up for them? WISPA's just bleating and going along like >> blind sheep. >> >> I STILL cannot believe we're walking into this without a single official >> objection from WISPA or the other organizations supposedly on "our" side. >> I >> guess I should not be surprised. Expedience has become the religion of >> our >> times. Like rolling over and playing dead is going to earn us brownie >> points >> and favors later? Don't count on it. >> >> Will I help law enforcement track down and prosecute people who are >> breaking >> the law or otherwise a threat? No question at all, of COURSE I WILL. I >> will >> NOT pre-tap thier connection in any way that compromises my security or >> their >> security, costs me significantly, or is in my view, unconstitutional >> (which >> is pretty much anyting done ahead of time). That, as a citizen, is my >> duty. >> If that costs me my future and business, it's a small price to pay for >> what >> people have given their lives before me to preserve. If I can preserve >> that >> for a few people for while... I WILL DO IT. >> >> Damn, people, STAND UP FOR ONCE. >> >> >> mark at neofast dot net >> neofast, Inc, wireless internet for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue >> Mountains >> 541-969-8200 >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
