I agree. That's what I was trying to get through as well, either enforcement
of the rules or non-enforcement. Just make it equal across the board for
those who do or do not pay certain dues.

Zack

On 5/17/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I also think that WISPA really should do a better job of policing our
lists.
We now have enough vendor members that we're seeing some overlap and we
have
more responsibilities to them.

laters,
Marlon
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion of services on-list


> Zack Kneisley wrote:
>
>> I don't feel that ANY promotion of products or services in a signature
of
>> this particular list should be allowed unless you pay for it.
>
> That gets into the incredibly fuzzy question of "what counts as
> promotion," though.
>
> Let's take the email thread, as an example.
>
> If I'm the owner of SuperDeluxeEmail and post "you should use my company
> because it's the best," that's probably self-promotion.
>
> What if I say "you should use my company because I'm a WISPA member?" Is
> that promotion, or an advertisement of the sort WISPA has been known to
> offer to paying vendor members?
>
> What if I don't disclose that I own SuperDeluxeEmail?
>
> What if I'm using a sock puppet to tell people how awesome
> SuperDeluxeEmail is?
>
> What if, instead of being the owner of the company, I'm just a minority
> investor? Or "merely" a very satisfied customer?
>
> What if I think it's a lousy company and I want you to use their service
> so you'll think it's lousy and join me in publicly bad-mouthing them?
>
> There's a lot of subtle levels here.
>
> Honestly, IMO a lot of the value of this list comes from the fact that a
> lot of different vendors are directly, or indirectly, represented here.
> A little self-promotion is probably inevitable, and probably healthy.
> (If you can't promote yourself and your business at least a little bit,
> you won't be in business for very long.)
>
> Giving WISPA money doesn't (or at least shouldn't) mean that everyone
> walks on eggshells around your booth in the ongoing trade show that is
> this mailing list, and doesn't mean that we'll overlook any problems or
> shortcomings in your product. Conversely, if you make a good product, we
> won't ignore it out-of-hand because you haven't yet tithed. (We'll
> probably encourage you to do so, but...)
>
> If we're going to start treating some folks differently based solely
> upon whether they're paying members of WISPA, this list loses a lot of
> its value.
>
> David Smith
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