The person I speak with about MT certified systems has asked me to keep it hush hush, so perhaps that lack of detail has been the source of confusion. For all I know, I may have already exceeded the bounds of what I'm allowed to say by even saying I know someone that's working on it.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble


Mike,

I see no evidence of anyone twisting your words.

As I see it, problems of mis-interpretation of your words have come up because your statement that "there will be certified option" is so general that it omits specific details thereby almost guaranteeing that the unmentioned specific details will be misunderstood and/or mis-interpreted.

I respectfully suggest that you consider one of the following three options.

1. Provide specific details about FCC certified Mikrotik-based systems that you know for a fact will soon be offered by one of more vendors.

2. If you are a WISPA member, let's take this discussion over WISPA's Certification email list which is a members-only list.

3. Contact me via phone or email (off-list) and we can discuss more specific details about the process of obtaining FCC 3650 MHz certification.

Best Regards,
                        jack

Mike Hammett wrote:
I... I give up talking to you. You take what I say and twist it horribly as if I am some renegade pioneer of MT.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble


Mike,

This does not make everyone using a Mikrotik system legal though. It is not just as easy as saying I use the same components in my system as the one certified so I am legal. In case you are unaware, this would also include the enclosure and the power supply even then you still need the documentation from the entity that certified the system. The system must be exactly the same soup to nuts.

Again for you to say that an FCC Certified Mikrotik System would make any Mikrotik legality a non issue is an unreasonable statement.

Below is a link that might be helpful;
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-56A1.pdf

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Mike Hammett wrote:
Well, it will be a non issue because there will be certified option.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA FCC] FCC 3650 band response today..


Mike,

That is a big IF there. As I said before I don't see that every single hardware configuration deployed using Mikrotik will be covered. So to say that Mikrotik FCC System Certification will be a non issue is not a reasonable statement to make.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

Mike Hammett wrote:
IIRC, if everything is the same, you can label it as containing X, Y, Z and be compliant.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA FCC] FCC 3650 band response today..


Ralph,

I have to agree that even if there is a certified system in the works this will not make ALL Mikrotik installations certified. There will most likely be some uncertified gear left in the field as I don't believe that some wireless providers will rip out there existing hardware to comply with system certification. I also don't think it will be a non issue anytime soon.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

Ralph wrote:
I am aware that there was talk of that and maybe even a business in the works around it, but it is too early to say that in any certain time frame it will be a non-issue... Unless you are making an announcement (or someone is). And I highly doubt certification will be retroactive to whatever roo-tenna or tupperware box or whatever that people have been making
"systems" out of prior to then.

Don't get me wrong- I will be GLAD to see someone get MT certified.

Ralph


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA FCC] FCC 3650 band response today..


Ralph,

I think there is a committee gathering information on the most common hardware configurations to get something certified for Mikrotik.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

Ralph wrote:

Why do you say this?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA FCC] FCC 3650 band response today..

 Within a few months the whole MT certified system will
be a non-issue.


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Mike Hammett
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http://www.ics-il.com






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