It seems that we are all quite busy, John.

I want to comment and agree with your sentiment if I may.

This list is a *professional* list. People's politics are irrelevant and people who can not separate politics from their profession are immature socially.

I spent today with a man who is diametrically opposed to my political persuasion. I was helping him to solve a wireless problem he had in a deployment. Both of us understand that we are strongly opposed to each other's opinion about many things, yet we not only had an excellent day together but we solved his problem. When he installs the mesh we worked out today, his customer is going to be happy. Not only did we have a really pleasant day, but we had lunch and left each other with respect at the end of the day...

This is not the place to talk about politics, you can do that at DSLR, or anywhere. My boss did not pay for the privilege of talking politics on this forum. He paid for membership because he thinks that WISPA is capable of providing his *business* a service which is worth more than the money he spent. Politics are totally irrelevant.

Sadly, *everyone* has a political opinion. Even the board is not immune from that problem; however, we can *all* agree that we will ensure that this forum is *APOLITICAL* and we can all ask our leaders to ensure that our board is *APOLITICAL*.

... and we all should expect nothing more or less than that ...

If you have a political need to satisfy, *TAKE IT SOME WHERE ELSE*

Thanks
-m-

John Scrivner wrote:
The next political grandstanding we see I will request the person(s) responsible get a week away from the list. This is NOT a place to spew your politics.
Scriv


Alan Cain wrote:

Michael Erskine wrote:

Jack Unger wrote:

Michael,

OK but please clarify. No need to be vague here.

Who was paranoid and/or what was the "slip"?

jack


Michael Erskine wrote:

Jack Unger wrote:


For the moment anyway, it appears that ISPs will not be required to block websites based on either "suspicion" or on the orders of governmental agencies that may or may not have specific political motivations to deny free speech in the name of protecting public "security" or "safety".

jack


Then there appears to be nothing to be either overly political in our comment or excessively paranoid in our thinking? That is good. Therefore let us try not to do that. Leadership is a tough place to stand neutral politically and it is understandable that the occasional slip happens. Never the less, politics ans paranoia are not the purpose of WISPA.

-m-


Jack I quoted the pertinents. There is no reason to suggest that "governmental agencies" with "political motivations" would try to "deny free speech" in the name of "protecting security or safety".

My son (the Iraq war combat veteran with a purple heart) and I talked the other day. He goes back next week.

I said, "Son, are we winning the war?"

He said, "That depends upon your definition of winning?"

He explained that he and his brothers are "bait". Yep, his words exactly. They are "bait" because Al Queda is too damn stupid to simply come to the US and kill people. They take the easy target, Americans in Iraq. Most folks don't get that. I got it from day one... six years ago. You see, they can kill our children in Iraq, or they can kill our people in Boston, New York, or wherever.

Then he said, "but if you define winning as a self sustaining, independant, Iraqui government, that is going to take ten years."

What does that mean to you and me?

It means that Iraq is going to belong to Iran or Syria before it becomes a democracy.

It means that you are going to be paying $5.00 per gallon before you are paying $2.50 per gallon.


Vote for the liberal, pro gay, female of your choice...

Is Ron Paul liberal and pro-gay, or would Bloomberg be more fun?


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