I very well could have been wrong on channel size, not understanding what I was reading.
The FCC cert on link showed a spectrum range of 20Mhz wide: 4.07 w 15Mhz wide: 7.24 w I have no idea if that has anything to do with available channel widths. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service > Are you sure those channel sizes are correct? > > I thought Redline used 3.5 and 7 while AirSpan used 5 and 10. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:18 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service > > >> Wow- Thats a huge difference. >> For those that don't want to pull up the link... >> >> Redline: 25Mhz ch: 1.3w >> AirSpan: 20Mhz ch: 4.07 w >> AirSpan: 15Mhz ch: 7.24 w >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >> >> >>> and the Redline grant: >>> >>> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/Eas731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY&RequestTimeout=500&application_id=549096&fcc_id=QC8-AN100UA >>> >>> So Redline unit does have FAR less power available then AirSpan. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >>> >>> >>>> Airspan grant: >>>> >>>> https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/Eas731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COP >>>> Y&RequestTimeout=500&application_id=686827&fcc_id=O2J-365T >>>> >>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:24 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Now that I've read those posts of yours, I better understand your >>>> position. >>>> I was not taking reduced power into consideration. I just had in my >>>> mind >>>> the 25watts EIRP often mentioned in FCC precentations over the years. >>>> >>>> To the best of my knowledge, the AirSpan product that I am familiar >>>> with, do >>>> not have that same limitation. >>>> Although I do not have that data off the top of my head, to respond >>>> accurately. >>>> >>>> But regardless... What we have here is not a limitation by WiMax, nor >>>> by >>>> >>>> 3.6G, nor FCC, but a limit posed by the manufacturers and their >>>> designs. >>>> >>>> Doesn't anyone have any insight on why the FCC rules allow more power >>>> for >>>> wider channels? >>>> >>>> I realize that wider channels create larger internal system noise, >>>> which >>>> >>>> could be a reason for needing more power for wider channels. >>>> But that is in contradiction to 2.4Ghz rules for Smart Array antennas, >>>> that >>>> rewarded in highr power for those that had narrower beamwidths, and >>>> interfere less. >>>> In that spirit, I would think it would have been wise to reward those >>>> who >>>> strived to use smaller channels, apposed to penalize them for being >>>> more >>>> >>>> efficient. >>>> There obviously has to be a technical reason apposed to spectrum >>>> ediquete. >>>> >>>> Tom DeReggi >>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:20 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >>>> >>>> >>>>> See my other post about Redline's comments and their FCC filed >>>> documents. >>>>> It just doesn't have the power. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:12 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Wimax APs can go much fartehr than 2-5 miles. >>>>>> You are spec'ing the distance limits of their advanced NLOS features. >>>>>> In LOS, they can go just as far as any other unlicened gear. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think its important to define country. If you are talking about >>>> Idaho >>>>>> with houses 20 miles apart, yes, you'd be correct. 2.4Ghz and less is >>>> the >>>>>> better option. >>>>>> But where 3.6 Wimax could be exciting is small little towns. where 3 >>>> 6Mhz >>>>>> channels would actually be enough to get decent speed, and able to >>>>>> acheive >>>>>> high modulations because its noise free. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom DeReggi >>>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:24 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What good is an AP that can only do 15 megs throughput in the city? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What good is an AP that can only do 2 - 5 miles in the country? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:11 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I guess I am a bit perplexed by this premise. Why would people in >>>> urban >>>>>>>> areas pay for low bandwidth wireless broadband options? What >>>> problem >>>>>>>> does this platform solve under that scenario? >>>>>>>> Scriv >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>>>>>> I would like to note that Redline echoed my thoughts on 3.65 GHz. >>>> It >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> for rural providers and is not for high bandwidth providers. It's >>>> >>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>> practical implementation is a dense urban environment with low >>>>>>>>> throughput >>>>>>>>> clients. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:18 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX >>>> Service >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are a number of WiMAX 3.5 GHz solutions that will tune to >>>> 3.65 >>>>>>>>>> just fine. I doubt that we would need to force the forum to issue >>>> a >>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>> profile for a frequency band that existing profiles already >>>> cover. As >>>>>>>>>> far as I am concerned WiMAX in 3.65 GHz is here in all respects >>>> and >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> not just marketing verbiage. Bravo to Matt Liotta on making a >>>> move >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> I am sure many others will follow. Way to go Matt. >>>>>>>>>> Scriv >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clint Ricker wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom, >>>>>>>>>>> I'd agree. I'm in no way advocating marketing that is deceptive >>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> terms >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> deliverables. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My main point is more that communications in marketing often >>>>>>>>>>> involves >>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>> buzzwords that coopt something someone knows for describing your >>>>>>>>>>> product. >>>>>>>>>>> Even if that is, on a technical level, incorrect, on a business >>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> communication and marketing standpoint good practice--the >>>> reality is >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> the end user understands what you are saying and more "truth" is >>>>>>>>>>> communicated--they better understand what to expect from your >>>>>>>>>>> product. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, using terms that mislead the customer into expecting >>>> something >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> isn't is an entirely different matter, and one that I don't >>>> advocate >>>>>>>>>>> and, >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> the end, is very detrimental. I think it comes down to the >>>>>>>>>>> deliverables, >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> that sense. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> Clint Ricker >>>>>>>>>>> -Kentnis Technologies >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2008 11:56 AM, Tom DeReggi >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> First, two thumbs up for Matt. 1) He's leading the way to >>>> expand >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> technologies. 2) He's clever enough to use maximize how he >>>> uses of >>>>>>>>>>>> Press >>>>>>>>>>>> Releases. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> With that said, in response to Clint, I had mixed feelings >>>>>>>>>>>> regarding >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> release. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't see a problem listing "Wimax" in the press release. >>>>>>>>>>>> Wimax/Non-Wimax, whats the difference, its wireless, its latest >>>>>>>>>>>> state >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> art. All the same to the consumer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where I saw it riding the line was stating "Granted a License". >>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that misleads the public to come to a false >>>> conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a big difference between licensed and unlicensed in >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>>>> eye. >>>>>>>>>>>> Licensed has 100% protection, Unlicensed 100% doesn't. >>>>>>>>>>>> Licenses are usualy exclusive, unlicensed is not. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3650 light licensing is "experiental" and much closer to the >>>>>>>>>>>> characteristics >>>>>>>>>>>> of unlicensed, with registration added. >>>>>>>>>>>> Sure technically 3650 is licensed, but again the reader is >>>> misled >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>> the service is something more than it really is. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is that ethical? Is it deceptive? Could you here the spin? Its >>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> illegal. >>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing was said that could be miscontrued as a lie. Is it any >>>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>> than typical forward thinking statements of other press >>>> releases? >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> clever marketing? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom DeReggi >>>>>>>>>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>>>>>>>>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Clint Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:15 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX >>>> Service >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make a point in return. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a press release, and it is generally used for >>>> marketing >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> publicity. Who the flip cares about the exact nuances in >>>>>>>>>>>>> technology? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt's company expresses their product in terms that their >>>> target >>>>>>>>>>>>> market >>>>>>>>>>>>> understands, then it is good marketing. It's not like their >>>>>>>>>>>>> customers >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> going to do deep layer1 and 2 analysis to see that their >>>> bandwidth >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> coming >>>>>>>>>>>>> over the "one true WiMax". If it looks like a duck and quacks >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> duck >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and you're talking to kindergarteners, just go ahead and call >>>> it a >>>>>>>>>>>>> duck >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> reeducate the 1/1000 of 1 percent who become ornithologists >>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> grow >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> up and care to learn the subtle nuances. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know companies that sell/sold "wireless DSL". Technically, >>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete absurdity. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But, I'd bet that it did a good job of communicating the >>>>>>>>>>>>> concept--which >>>>>>>>>>>>> is, >>>>>>>>>>>>> after all, the point of marketing. I'd imagine that they do >>>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> companies that sell "High bandwidth 802.11A/B/G Data Traffic >>>>>>>>>>>>> Transport >>>>>>>>>>>>> Solutions". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are service providers who still keep on trying to sell >>>>>>>>>>>>> "VoIP" >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> multi page explanations about how the analog voice get >>>> digitized, >>>>>>>>>>>>> packetized, encapsulated, and 20 other gazillion processes >>>> that no >>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>> really cares about unless they like reading RFCs every time >>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mundane purchase decisions. Then there's Comcast who, while >>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> hurt by the existing customer base and financial resources and >>>>>>>>>>>>> technical >>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure, became the fourth largest telco in quite a >>>> short >>>>>>>>>>>>> amount >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> time. They did this by having the marketing common sense to >>>> sell >>>>>>>>>>>>> "telephone >>>>>>>>>>>>> service", not "Voice over IP". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If the customers understand what Matt's product is better >>>> because >>>>>>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> calls >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it "WiMax", then great. It sure sounds better than "Modified >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pre-release >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> quasi 802.16". You're in business to sell products...and, >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> involves >>>>>>>>>>>>> communication. Using language that people can understand >>>> sells >>>>>>>>>>>>> products >>>>>>>>>>>>> and, in the end, gets more "truth" across--if that is your >>>>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>>>> here--by actually communicating with people as opposed to >>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>> language >>>>>>>>>>>>> that people just don't understand--nor care to. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Clint Ricker >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kentnis Technologies >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2008 7:49 PM, Mike Bushard, Jr >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do your radios have sub channelization? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I Congratulate you on the build, but I have to question if >>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not part of the total misunderstanding of WiMAX (what it >>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't think WiMAX is the right term, Maybe WiMAX >>>> based, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely is not WiMAX. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We just turned up our first WiMAX base station today. Running >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5Ghzand >>>>>>>>>>>>>> using 16e ready hardware. I'm Not trying to steal glory here, >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Bushard, Jr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wireless Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 320-256-WISP (9477) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 320-256-9478 Fax >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:22 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] [SPAM] One Ring Networks To >>>> Rollout >>>>>>>>>>>>>> New >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> WiMAX >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Importance: Low >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Stroh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixed WiMAX profiles for 3.5 (non-US), but NOT 3.65 GHz in >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the unique "contention protocol" requirements (systems for >>>> 3.65 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GHz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be considered proprietary and quite possibly >>>> non-interoperable). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The lower 25Mhz of 3.65Ghz does not have a "contention >>>> protocol" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement. 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