All,

Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in
3.65.
I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their
"secret sauce". Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. 

Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your
coverage
area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible,
according 
to their calculator tool.  outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single
piece qty-
talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers. 

BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that 
sent me private mails asking them to join.


-

Jeff




On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, "Mike Hammett"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)?
> 
> If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to 
> other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit
> throughput.
> 
> I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's
> AN-80 
> is the only high quality product that actually has throughput
> capabilities.
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks 
> ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
> 
> 
> > IIRC,
> >
> > 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5
> > Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10
> > Watts EIRP ...
> >
> >
> > Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why
> >
> > Airspan certification does get really close to it
> >
> > Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db)
> >
> > Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels
> >
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To
> > Rollout New WiMAX Service)
> >
> > As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I
> > switch the subject line to match the tread.
> >
> > Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment.
> > However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear
> > certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this
> > reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural
> > markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural
> > market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did.
> > Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for
> >
> > 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able
> >
> > to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout
> > process.
> >
> > I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the
> > FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity
> > for operators to provide services using 3.65.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > Mike Hammett wrote:
> >> The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC
> >> limitations.
> >>
> >> My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear
> > can do
> >> coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification.
> >>
> >> The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles.  With a 90*
> >> sector, only about 5 miles.
> >>
> >> I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only it
> > isn't
> >> because the power isn't there.
> >>
> >> The throughput isn't there for WiMax compliant equipment due to small
> >> channels.  If there were larger channel sizes, yes, it would support
> > higher
> >> throughput applications.  According to Redline, 7.5 MHz only gets
> > about 15
> >> megs of throughput with WiMax.
> >>
> >> Redline explicitly said 3.65 GHz isn't for rural applications due to
> > the
> >> power.
> >
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