We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas 
yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest 
systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed 
with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and 
the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The 
base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately. 
50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors. 

Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing.

-Eric

jeffrey thomas wrote:
> All,
>
>
> Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in
> 3.65.
> I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their
> "secret sauce". Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. 
>
> Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your
> coverage
> area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible,
> according 
> to their calculator tool.  outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single
> piece qty-
> talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers. 
>
> BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that 
> sent me private mails asking them to join.
>
>
> -
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, "Mike Hammett"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>   
>> So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)?
>>
>> If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to 
>> other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit
>> throughput.
>>
>> I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's
>> AN-80 
>> is the only high quality product that actually has throughput
>> capabilities.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks 
>> ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
>>
>>
>>     
>>> IIRC,
>>>
>>> 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5
>>> Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10
>>> Watts EIRP ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why
>>>
>>> Airspan certification does get really close to it
>>>
>>> Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db)
>>>
>>> Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To
>>> Rollout New WiMAX Service)
>>>
>>> As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I
>>> switch the subject line to match the tread.
>>>
>>> Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment.
>>> However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear
>>> certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this
>>> reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural
>>> markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural
>>> market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did.
>>> Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for
>>>
>>> 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able
>>>
>>> to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout
>>> process.
>>>
>>> I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the
>>> FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity
>>> for operators to provide services using 3.65.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>       
>>>> The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC
>>>> limitations.
>>>>
>>>> My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear
>>>>         
>>> can do
>>>       
>>>> coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification.
>>>>
>>>> The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles.  With a 90*
>>>> sector, only about 5 miles.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only it
>>>>         
>>> isn't
>>>       
>>>> because the power isn't there.
>>>>
>>>> The throughput isn't there for WiMax compliant equipment due to small
>>>> channels.  If there were larger channel sizes, yes, it would support
>>>>         
>>> higher
>>>       
>>>> throughput applications.  According to Redline, 7.5 MHz only gets
>>>>         
>>> about 15
>>>       
>>>> megs of throughput with WiMax.
>>>>
>>>> Redline explicitly said 3.65 GHz isn't for rural applications due to
>>>>         
>>> the
>>>       
>>>> power.
>>>>         
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