I'm sorry guys. Price was not discussed. A quote will be delivered to me 
shortly. I will post cost as soon as I see it. I'm hoping early next week.

I do have a sales order for one Redline RedMAX base station with outdoor 
CPE if anyone is interested...offlist.

FYI...I'm not in any shape or form affiliated with Airspan or Redline. 
We are an Internet Service Provider serving the greater Midwestern Kansas.

Eric Muehleisen
Sr. Internet Technology Specialist
Nex-Tech - Lightning Jack
785.625.7070 office
785.621.2980 voip

George Rogato wrote:
> Only thing I want to know is the price range, offlist if you must. But 
> I'm sure everyone is curious.
>
> Thanks
>
> George
>
> Eric Muehleisen wrote:
>   
>> We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas 
>> yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest 
>> systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed 
>> with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and 
>> the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The 
>> base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately. 
>> 50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors. 
>>
>> Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> jeffrey thomas wrote:
>>     
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>> Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in
>>> 3.65.
>>> I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their
>>> "secret sauce". Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. 
>>>
>>> Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your
>>> coverage
>>> area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible,
>>> according 
>>> to their calculator tool.  outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single
>>> piece qty-
>>> talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers. 
>>>
>>> BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that 
>>> sent me private mails asking them to join.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, "Mike Hammett"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)?
>>>>
>>>> If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to 
>>>> other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit
>>>> throughput.
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's
>>>> AN-80 
>>>> is the only high quality product that actually has throughput
>>>> capabilities.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks 
>>>> ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> IIRC,
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5
>>>>> Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10
>>>>> Watts EIRP ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why
>>>>>
>>>>> Airspan certification does get really close to it
>>>>>
>>>>> Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db)
>>>>>
>>>>> Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To
>>>>> Rollout New WiMAX Service)
>>>>>
>>>>> As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I
>>>>> switch the subject line to match the tread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment.
>>>>> However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear
>>>>> certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this
>>>>> reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural
>>>>> markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural
>>>>> market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did.
>>>>> Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able
>>>>>
>>>>> to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout
>>>>> process.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the
>>>>> FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity
>>>>> for operators to provide services using 3.65.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC
>>>>>> limitations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> can do
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles.  With a 90*
>>>>>> sector, only about 5 miles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only it
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> isn't
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> because the power isn't there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The throughput isn't there for WiMax compliant equipment due to small
>>>>>> channels.  If there were larger channel sizes, yes, it would support
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> higher
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> throughput applications.  According to Redline, 7.5 MHz only gets
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> about 15
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> megs of throughput with WiMax.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Redline explicitly said 3.65 GHz isn't for rural applications due to
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> the
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> power.
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
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