I do hear you Patrick. Patrick
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 FYI a sales rep from Trango just informed me that the TrangoLINK-45 has a newly released firmware that supports VLAN tagging on the management interfaces. It looks like this is what I'll be going with. Patrick, I'd love to use a B100 for this shot but a full link for under $2k is hard to pass up. After all, these are backup links that I would rather not dump a ton of money into. Patrick Eric Muehleisen wrote: > I see. We do the same in this case. If only Trango would implement vlan > in their multipoint products, life would be easier. > > -Eric > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Oh, each customer doesn't have a VLAN, only the special ones, then we >> install MikroTik usually. >> >> Basic Residential/Buisness applications are part of a untagged VLAN with >> Static IP addressing. Simple setup, but effective. >> >> -Cam >> >> >> >>> Then how do you tag your customers after the CPE? Do you provide them >>> with vlan capable switches? >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm not 100% I always use my Procurve switches for the VLAN and leave >>>> the >>>> Trango as a dummy bridge. >>>> >>>> Cameron >>>> Midcoast Internet >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> After running the numbers, it does look like I can get some decent >>>>> throughput out of this thing in 5.3 using the integrated antennas at >>>>> 6.5 >>>>> miles. Certainly better than the Canopy BH I'm using now. >>>>> >>>>> Another question: the sales page for the TrangoLINK-45 says it's VLAN >>>>> aware, but there's no mention of VLAN configuration in the user manual. >>>>> Is it possible to assign a VLAN to the management interface of these >>>>> radios? >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Shoemaker >>>>> President, Vector Data Systems LLC >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>>>> mobile: (410) 991-5791 >>>>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Responding to myself, I think the Orthogon can go to -7 and the >>>>>> Redline >>>>>> to -20 just for this purpose. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:07 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no documentation present, but people with Orthogon and Redline >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> said their products can use large antenna. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a PtMP environment, yes 2 - 3 miles is probably all you can get. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:21 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did not think you could legally run 3 foot parabolics in 5.3./ >>>>>>>> 5.4. >>>>>>>> Are there 3 foot dishes FCC certified with radios in 5.3 / 5.4? I >>>>>>>> would like to see a URL to data on these radio / antenna >>>>>>>> combinations. >>>>>>>> I had always believed the lower power limits of those bands pretty >>>>>>>> much meant they were only worth using in 2 or 3 mile shots. Please >>>>>>>> enlighten me. >>>>>>>> Scriv >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2008 3:17 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can go 10 - 15 miles within EIRP in 5.3\5.4 in a PtP >>>>>>>>> configuration. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> believe 10 miles is with a 3' dish. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Patrick Shoemaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:09 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, one hop is 6.5 miles so 5.3/5.4 is out unfortunately. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The other is 0.5 miles so I will probably run that in 5.3. There >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> lot of weather radar towers around here that junk up 5.4. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker >>>>>>>>>> President, Vector Data Systems LLC >>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>>>>>>>>> mobile: (410) 991-5791 >>>>>>>>>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Randy Cosby wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've had some limited experience with them, and so far all is >>>>>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>> using 5.4 channels, which is an added bonus for dealing with >>>>>>>>>>> noisy >>>>>>>>>>> canopy stuff. Fairly short hops though. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have two Motorola Canopy 20M backhauls running in 2.4 GHz that >>>>>>>>>>>> serve >>>>>>>>>>>> as redundant links between POPs. I am located in Maryland just >>>>>>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>>>>>> of DC, and the 2.4 noise floor has crept high enough to require >>>>>>>>>>>> replacement of these backup links. I am looking at the >>>>>>>>>>>> TrangoLINK-45 >>>>>>>>>>>> radios to replace these and wanted to get some real-world >>>>>>>>>>>> feedback >>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone who is using this system. Any problems / bugs / known >>>>>>>>>>>> issues? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> They will be colocated with Orthogon PtP radios as well as some >>>>>>>>>>>> Canopy >>>>>>>>>>>> APs, which are all running in 5.7. The Canopy APs and Orthogon >>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>> along >>>>>>>>>>>> great together running in the same band- am I wrong assuming the >>>>>>>>>>>> Trango >>>>>>>>>>>> product will have good enough receiver selectivity to get along >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> other equipment too? It will likely be run H-pol with the other >>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> v-pol (except the Orthogon which uses both polarities via MIMO). >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- WISPA Wants You! 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