Chuck: Depends on the frequency, channel size, type of service delivery ( fixed or mobile ), urban environment, suburban or rural, mimo, diversity....
YMMV is always the case with wimax. :) - Jeff On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:01 AM, CHUCK PROFITO wrote: > Patrick, > If not 70 miles and 30 mbps, > what are the real numbers on the fixed, for say: > 2 miles los? > 2 miles wooded? > 5 m los? > 5 m nlos? > 10 m los? > 10 m nlos > ?? > Is this a fair question? > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:14 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future > > The press has been wrong most of time, causing companies like ours > great > headaches. The stupid "70 miles 30 mbps" was the most absurd bit of > hyperbole that the press picked up and repeated endlessly. > Meanwhile, Mo > Shakouri (the Marketing VP of the WiMAX Forum and an Alvarion exec) > was > trying to dispel that at every turn (I sat in on many of his public > sessions). Others of us also were trying to correct the > expectations. I > did it in numerous analyst and press interviews. > > WiMAX is also doing well overseas, especially in Asia. WiMAX's > greatest > near term challenge in the U.S. is Sprint. > > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:57 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future > > WiMax as hyped by the press is dead. No? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future > > >> I agree with the vast majority of what Chuck says here and only >> partially disagree even on the WiMAX part (though I disagree strongly > on >> the "WiMAX is dead" part -- we have sold over $100M to date of it). >> >> The main takeaway with Chuck's post is that WISPs will have strong >> opportunities for a long time to come, and I agree 110%. >> >> Patrick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On >> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 >> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:26 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future >> >> WiMAX was dead, is dead and will remain dead. OK, not factually true >> but >> emotionally true. The cell companies will use WiMax frequencies and >> technologies but they will be a premium service and not well suited >> to >> compete with us for point to multi point fixed wireless. It will > never >> live >> up to the hype. >> >> All the cell data technologies will remain premium for folks on the > go. >> Cell does not want to squander the bandwidth to go after the value >> driven >> customer that love us so much. Cell is and will not be value leader > for >> >> fixed wireless. technologies. >> >> 700 MHz is just not going to be used for anything other than more >> cell >> spectrum. The bands are narrow. Good for phone and limited amounts > of >> data. Great propagation. Problem with 700 MHz is that the size of >> the >> antenna will be problematic for really small cell phones. Less gain >> than >> the current 900 and 1800 antennas for the same physical sizes. Also >> there >> will be a few years of implementation due to moving some existing TV >> stations. And some of them are not moving for some reason. I don't >> know if >> they get a special dispensation or what. >> >> All ILECs will continue to build out with fiber to the home. That > will >> erode market share for WISPs in some areas. This is a slow and > capital >> intensive process so no reason to get jumpy on that. Plus many folks >> prefer >> to deal with us vs a large public traded company. Superior customer >> service >> and support will always retain the customer. >> >> The cable companies will continue to shoot themselves in the foot and >> drop >> the balls. They are sooo freaked out by the erosion of customer base >> from >> DirecTV that they are not managing the IP side of the house as well >> as >> they >> could. They will continue to get in a tighter and tighter cash >> situation >> from satellite TV pressing from one side and the ILEC FTTH (and us) > from >> the >> other. >> >> In the meantime, we add VOIP, computer repair, data backup, web >> development, >> OTA HDTV install and maint, etc as cross sell and up sell > opportunities. >> >> All of us can offer triple play if we team up with DirecTV or OTA > HDTV. >> OTA >> HDTV is a wonderful opportunity for the next 18 months for the value >> conscious customer. Stock UHF TV antennas and converter boxes and > help >> folks get their analog TVs converted over. Less work than a WISP >> install >> and you will lock in the customer even more with superior customer >> service. >> You can rent them the gear for $5/month and make it a low cost > package. >> >> In 5 years hopefully your investment will be a cash cow and you will >> ride >> this horse until it dies. Perhaps other technologies will come along >> for us >> to deploy but I see our segment strong for the next 5 years. In 10 >> years, >> if we have not diversified, we will probably be hurting. >> >> Oh, and satellite ISP will never do much. Pesky physics. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:44 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Future >> >> >>> What do you see as the future of our industry over the next 5 years? >>> >>> AT&T is expanding U-Verse (will this be available outside of town?) >>> Verizon is expanding FiOS (will this be available outside of town?) >>> Cable will be using DOCSIS 3 >>> 3G will gain more steam >>> WiMAX will have larger and larger shares of the market >>> 700 MHz will be in use possibly for data communications by the big >> guys >>> >>> >>> My banker asked me, so I figured I'd see what other's opinions are. >>> >>> My thought is that the big guys mentioned above will continue to > avoid >> the >>> niche that we currently serve and we'll be able to provide better >> services >>> with more spectrum (5.4 GHz, additional 2.5 GHz, 3.6 GHz, possibly >>> TV >>> white spaces) and WiMAX. >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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