I have ONTs that are 5 years old now out in the field and are doing fine. I have class 5 central office switchs deployed that are closer to 10 years old that are still current technology. What is going to get out of date with a GPON ONT? 2.4 Gbps is plenty of bandwidth, don't you think?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future > The fiber would be good for 20 years and is the most costly part, but the > other pieces wouldn't be good for 20 years... I'd say only 5 years on > active components. They may technically work, but they'd be so outdated > by > then you wouldn't want them anymore. > > > ---------- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future > > >> Highly variable. TV content is costly. Everyone has different costs for >> transport. But if you are delivering symmetric 10-100 mbps and the TV >> and >> phone are a good value, you will probably lock in the customer. On the >> telco side of the house, we try to make the system pay for itself over a >> 20 year amortization. If you live in an area served by frontier >> telephone, might as well go borrow the money and build it because they >> never will. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Travis Johnson >> To: WISPA General List >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future >> >> >> A couple quick things: >> >> (1) You don't necessarily have them for life. People can change to DISH >> and a wireless provider and do VoIP over that. Especially if they can >> save >> $5/month, a lot of people will change. DISH is $35/month for decent >> programming. Wireless is another $40/month and VoIP can be had for >> $20/month. >> >> (2) It looks good with those numbers, but realistically you have costs >> way above just the install. On a $100/month customer how much gross >> profit >> do you actually make after buying bandwidth, transport, TV channels, VoIP >> service, etc. I really have no idea, so I am asking. Do you make $20 >> gross? $1,500 / $20 = 75 months breakeven and this doesn't include >> support >> costs, etc. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Chuck McCown wrote: >> FTTH ONT pricing (the unit on the house) keeps falling. They are about >> $400 >> now. >> You can put in fiber for $1-2/foot (if you have a clear ROW). >> The CO end is about $50K/terminal that is capable of serving thousands. >> I don't know what the pro-rata single fiber COT card is, but I think they >> are are around $2K/port with each port serving 32 on a PON. >> So, if the plowing is good and the ROWs are clear and free, you can >> probably >> get a customer installed (in a fairly dense surburban area) for less than >> $1500 each. >> Triple play for $100/month. And you have them for life. >> Of course this assumes you build it yourself and you already have a NOC >> and >> you already have access to and IPTV stream etc. >> But it is doable. There is a business case for building such a system. >> Main thing is to do it before the ILEC/RBOC does it. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future >> >> >> Well Mike, the way I see it is that the sky has been falling my entire >> time >> as an ISP (over a decade now). >> >> WiMax is still a joke in the market place. >> >> 3G is too slow and too expensive. >> >> 700 is not deployed in any level that matters and doesn't look like it >> will >> be any time soon. >> >> Cable is in trouble because they are dying under the load of the high end >> users they they keep getting. They need all of the capacity they can >> come >> up with for HDTV channels but broadband is taking up too much space on >> the >> coax. They also JUST put in their networks. The big companies aren't >> structured to reinvest in new hardware every few years. I'd say that >> they >> will continue to grow and continue to piss off their base. I'm not >> worried >> about cable. >> >> As for AT&T and Verizon? People already hate the service and prices they >> have, so far I can sell against them. >> >> Fiber is cool, I have FTTH customers. But man is it expensive! There's >> just no way to ever make the investment back at today's pricing levels. >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:44 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Future >> >> >> What do you see as the future of our industry over the next 5 years? >> >> AT&T is expanding U-Verse (will this be available outside of town?) >> Verizon is expanding FiOS (will this be available outside of town?) >> Cable will be using DOCSIS 3 >> 3G will gain more steam >> WiMAX will have larger and larger shares of the market >> 700 MHz will be in use possibly for data communications by the big guys >> >> >> My banker asked me, so I figured I'd see what other's opinions are. >> >> My thought is that the big guys mentioned above will continue to avoid >> the >> niche that we currently serve and we'll be able to provide better >> services >> with more spectrum (5.4 GHz, additional 2.5 GHz, 3.6 GHz, possibly TV >> white spaces) and WiMAX. >> >> >> ---------- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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