Consider the volume we sell I will have to disagree. We see no more RMA rate 
now then a year or two ago and in fact less then some manufacturers estimate 
about 1 to 2% rma rate. 

Consider how they grown and managed to get price down I'm surprised its not 
more/higher. 

/Eje 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Luthman <[email protected]>

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:19:48 
To: WISPA General List<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness


 Moreover, I suspect the overall quality of Mikrotik hardware is not very
good and it's getting even worse.

>>To begin with they're not the best by they are far from "not very good" in
my opinion.  As far as progression, though, they have majorly improved.  The
RB4xx series is BY FAR superior to the RB1xx and RB5xx boards.  I think the
532s were absolute junk, while the 1xx were decent.  The 4xx has been
flawless in my area.  I have had no DOAs and only one hit by lightning.  No
random failures!

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Paolo Di Francesco <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Forbes,
>
> good news and bad news. Let me start with the good news.
>
> You are not alone!
>
> The bad news is the same of the good news, lately, we are having a lot
> of problems on the ethernet. It looks like the ethernet port has a lower
> speed (like 200Kbps) or that you cannot even log in it. Does it sound
> familiar to you?
>
> On some site, it can be some EM field close to you. That's why when you
> try it in your lab everything works magically. You are out of that EM
> field, and the interference is gone. Even using shielded cable does not
> help, because it could attenuate the effect not fix at 100%. Moreover it
> depends if the shield is grounded to the metallic shell of the box, etc.
>
> Moreover, I suspect the overall quality of Mikrotik hardware is not very
> good and it's getting even worse.
>
> Suggestions:
>
> 1) try shielded cable
> 2) try some ferrule on the shielded cable
> 3) test electrical continuity of the circuit from the cable plug on one
> side to the box (other side)
> 4) change power supply
> 5) if you are using an inject/splitter, change it
>
> Let us know!
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> > We have a tower with a single radio operating on it.  We were using a
> > Microtik 133 board with a single Prizim chipset in it.  One day it
> > stopped responding to requests through the network using Winbox.  No
> > customers were down so we assumed it was running bandwidth (too much
> > snow to travel up there).  One night about 7 PM we started getting tower
> > down calls, of course we hadn't been able to ping or get into it for
> > weeks so we had no idea.
> >
> > Took a back-up 433AH board up and used the same radio card, worked like
> > a charm for both our access and customer throughput.  We didn't want to
> > waste a three port/LAN board so ordered a 433a single port board.  Once
> > it arrived we logged into it by MAC in the office with no problem,
> > programmed it and sent it up to the tower.  Once on the tower customers
> > associated just fine but once again we couldn't access the management
> > side.  We saw the MAC and the identity for it but we couldn't ping that
> > IP (yes, the 433AH radio was unplugged) and trying to load by MAC would
> > start the RouterOS download but at various places it would crash.
> >
> > Moved the 433A down to the hut and a laptop easily logged into it, even
> > when plugged into the switch, but we still couldn't log into it from
> > remote, although the laptop on scene was going through the same switch
> > and by MAC just like we were trying, sigh.  OK we put the 433AH back in
> > service and again everything worked great.  I'm stumped, we isolated the
> > switch, Cat 5, and IP Address but those two single cards won't allow us
> > to log in over using Winbox either by IP or by MAC while it allows it
> > locally.   *banging head against the wall.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Forbes
> >
> >
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