Don't forget the expansion joints. I have seen that stuff lookin
pretty much like a snake on a good warm day. Brian RickG wrote: I stacked 15 - 20' sections of the grey pvc up to the 300' level where our equipment was located. What a job that was! -RickGOn Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Joe Miller <joe.mil...@dslbyair.com> wrote:Here is an idea for the tower sites....Run your cat5 in electrical conduit, the gray PVC type. That way the cat5 will be protected from the weather. I've done this and I haven't had to replace cat5 on the towers on over 3 years now. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:From: Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,theyare for the youngTo: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM I have had a few customers look at us crosswise. A couple have even asked for wall plates, or had us install ethernet jacks. We'll do this if asked, but I don't carry the parts with me. I also try REALLY hard to NOT put any ethernet wall plates in. I don't want the extra connection in a poe situation. It's probably fine, but as an ex lineman I know that connections are almost always the reason for a failure so I want the fewest possible. We try to hide all cable as much as possible, we ask for a vacuum to clean up any drillings, we do NOT leave the little ends from the cat5 crimps laying around - not even outside. Hell, until recently we always ran indoor WHITE cat 5 cable. People REALLY liked that, I have just gotten tired of cables with water in them. Luckily it seems to almost exclusively happen at my towers not at the customer's sites. It's usually cheap and easy to replace the bad cable and ruined poe. But I hate service calls! Sure wish I could find a double insulated white cable to use instead of this black stuff we're using now. laters, marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Miller" <joe.mil...@dslbyair.com> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are for the youngI just had to ask......very interesting. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:From: Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doinginstalls yourself,they are for the youngTo: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com, "WISPA GeneralList" <wireless@wispa.org>Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:51 AM Not at all. We hide the holes behind a desk orsomethingwhen ever possible. You'll never notice them. Unlike abig,ugly wall plate. marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoeMiller" <joemiller...@yahoo.com>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doinginstallsyourself,they are for the youngMarlon, You are joking......right? --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:From: Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stopdoinginstalls yourself, theyare for the young To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org>Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:30 AM Who uses wall plates anyway? We just tryto getthe holeright at the top of the baseboards. Then, someday whenall this isgone andsome new technology (TV band with no externalantenna?)replaces itthey'll just have to plug one small hole and give it a dabof paint!marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Scott Reed"<scottr...@onlyinternet.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stopdoinginstallsyourself, they are for the youngDon't they still make plateswith just a1/4"hole in it. No need todrill. George Rogato wrote:I was trying to drill a holeinto a blankwallplate. 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