I stacked 15 - 20' sections of the grey pvc up to the 300' level where our
equipment was located. What a job that was! -RickG

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Joe Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Here is an idea for the tower sites....Run your cat5 in electrical conduit,
> the gray PVC type. That way the cat5 will be protected from the weather.
> I've done this and I haven't had to replace cat5 on the towers on over 3
> years now.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > From: Marlon K. Schafer <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they
> are for the young
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM
> > I have had a few customers look at us crosswise.  A couple
> > have even asked for wall plates, or had us install ethernet
> > jacks.  We'll do this if asked, but I don't carry
> > the parts with me.
> >
> > I also try REALLY hard to NOT put any ethernet wall plates
> > in.  I don't want the extra connection in a poe
> > situation.  It's probably fine, but as an ex lineman I
> > know that connections are almost always the reason for a
> > failure so I want the fewest possible.
> >
> > We try to hide all cable as much as possible, we ask for a
> > vacuum to clean up any drillings, we do NOT leave the little
> > ends from the cat5 crimps laying around - not even outside.
> >
> > Hell, until recently we always ran indoor WHITE cat 5
> > cable.  People REALLY liked that, I have just gotten tired
> > of cables with water in them.  Luckily it seems to almost
> > exclusively happen at my towers not at the customer's
> > sites.  It's usually cheap and easy to replace the bad
> > cable and ruined poe. But I hate service calls!
> >
> > Sure wish I could find a double insulated white cable to
> > use instead of this black stuff we're using now.
> >
> > laters,
> > marlon
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Miller"
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: "Marlon K. Schafer"
> > <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs
> > yourself,they are for the young
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I just had to ask......very interesting.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: Marlon K. Schafer
> > <[email protected]>
> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing
> > installs yourself,they are for the young
> > >> To: [email protected], "WISPA General
> > List" <[email protected]>
> > >> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:51 AM
> > >> Not at all.  We hide the holes behind a desk or
> > something
> > >> when ever
> > >> possible.  You'll never notice them.  Unlike a
> > big,
> > >> ugly wall plate.
> > >>
> > >> marlon
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe
> > Miller" <[email protected]>
> > >> To: "WISPA General List"
> > >> <[email protected]>
> > >> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:40 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing
> > installs
> > >> yourself,they are
> > >> for the young
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Marlon,
> > >> >
> > >> > You are joking......right?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From: Marlon K. Schafer
> > >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop
> > doing
> > >> installs yourself, they
> > >> >> are for the young
> > >> >> To: "WISPA General List"
> > >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:30 AM
> > >> >> Who uses wall plates anyway?  We just try
> > to get
> > >> the hole
> > >> >> right at the top
> > >> >> of the baseboards.  Then, someday when
> > all this is
> > >> gone and
> > >> >> some new
> > >> >> technology (TV band with no external
> > antenna?)
> > >> replaces it
> > >> >> they'll just have
> > >> >> to plug one small hole and give it a dab
> > of paint!
> > >> >> marlon
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>
> > From: "Scott Reed"
> > >> >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> To: "WISPA General List"
> > >> >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:08 AM
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop
> > doing
> > >> installs
> > >> >> yourself, they are
> > >> >> for the young
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Don't they still make plates
> > with just a
> > >> 1/4"
> > >> >> hole in it.  No need to
> > >> >> > drill.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > George Rogato wrote:
> > >> >> >> I was trying to drill a hole
> > into a blank
> > >> wall
> > >> >> plate. All of the sudden,
> > >> >> >> it shattered into about 10
> > pieces.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> That happens a lot with a
> > typical
> > >> bakerlite type
> > >> >> wall plate.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Next time you buy blank plates,
> > try to
> > >> find the
> > >> >> lexan flexible ones.
> > >> >> >> Everyone makes them, they are
> > rubber like
> > >> and when
> > >> >> you drill a hole in
> > >> >> >> it, it doesn't crack or
> > shatter.
> > >> >> >> They come in white ivory etc and
> > like I
> > >> said,
> > >> >> everyone makes them ,
> > >> >> >> Leviton, eagle, p&s, hubble
> > etc.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> They cost no more.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
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