You are missing an opportunity there...

Tell them you will provide them a 300Mbps full duplex link for $3,000 per month. Then go buy a Trango licensed link for $11k and make $3k a month profit after 4 months. :)

Travis
Microserv

John Thomas wrote:
Are you saying that it is not practical for you to get a T-1 so that you 
can legitimately run BGP and multi home?
You can set BGP so that 99% of the traffic goes over the bigger pipe if 
necessary.

I am curious where people are getting DS3's at $1500 per month? We have 
a client that has a point to point DS3 for 2 buildings that are 2 blocks 
apart and they pay $2000 for each end, and that *does not* include 
Internet access, only point to point.

John

Richey wrote:
  
/rant on

Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a market
where it's not cost effective to multi home.  Where many people might get a
DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month.   For
those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their
connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home in the
beginning.  

If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will give
you an allocation.  I have had problems in the past with a similar situation
where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to allocate
any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN.  ARIN would not do anything
until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem.   

The policy should be different for an ISP.   If you are a small ISP
multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22.  It makes it hard for
the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks
are non portable.

/rant off

Richey

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cliff Olle
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 days
or they could revoke my IP's.  Would they allot a /20 in the case you are
only using 4 class Cs?

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

One add to the /22.  You need to be or plan to be running BGP.


Scott
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN


  
    
If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if
you are not, then you will need to justify a /20  ( 16 class C's)

John


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
    
      
We probably need to get our own ip addys now.  We're using 4 class c's 
and
will need more pretty soon in one location.

Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process?

marlon




      
        
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