If I don't expect it, why will the manufacturers make it? They seem to be happy to court the guy offering 1 megabit out of a $8k radio when anything made in the past 8 years could do the same thing.
Do I expect to take Joe mainstream away from Comcast? No. Do I want to be seen as the dialup to their superhighway? Definitely not. I plan to switch to usage based billing, but I also want a system that will supply the demand. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "3-dB Networks" <wi...@3-db.net> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:01 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? > Well the Canopy 430 series is going to do 42Mbps... but even then how well > is that going to work... considering your clients are going to have to be > within 2 miles. > > I don't think you should have a realistic expectation that wireless (in a > point to multipoint environment) is going to match the "next generation" > demand. You can pray and hope... but I think in many ways the laws of > physics are going to prevent wireless from competing with DSL/Cable... and > god forbid, FTTH. > > Anyways... as has also been mentioned on this list... I'd expect in 5 > years > most service providers are going to charge by usage... so stream that 5mb > movie all you want for three hours... but you're going to pay me for it. > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:56 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >> >>Others on the list have mentioned the exponential increase in video use. >>Those are multi megabit streams ran for hours on end. I believe someone >>reported that NetFlix peaked at 5 megabits. Why would I deploy gear >>that >>couldn't handle these next generation services? >> >> >>----- >>Mike Hammett >>Intelligent Computing Solutions >>http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------- >>From: "3-dB Networks" <wi...@3-db.net> >>Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:13 PM >>To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >> >>> Because speed isn't everything. >>> >>> Mesa went head to head with Cable and DSL for a long time... offering >>> packages of 7Mb this or that. Our highest package was 2.5Mb/1Mb. Yet >>we >>> still did a very respectful job, because we offered the best customer >>> service around, and people liked using a local company. >>> >>> I would challenge... is why does anyone need more than 2Mb at home? I >>> have >>> a 15Mb Business Class Comcast connection at home... it burst to 30Mb. >>Yet >>> it doesn't feel any faster than a 2Mb connection to me. >>> >>> Now if I'm downloading files... :-) >>> >>> Daniel White >>> 3-dB Networks >>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>On >>>>Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>>>Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:58 AM >>>>To: WISPA General List >>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>> >>>>2 megs is yesterday's news. >>>> >>>>U-Verse is 18/1.5 >>>>FiOS is 50/20 >>>>Charter has 60/5 >>>>Comcast has 50/10 >>>> >>>>2 megs is 36 times faster than 56k. Charter is 30 times faster than >>>>that. >>>> >>>>Why is the wireless world happy with being 10 years behind the wired >>>>world? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>----- >>>>Mike Hammett >>>>Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-------------------------------------------------- >>>>From: "Kevin Suitor" <ksui...@redlinecommunications.com> >>>>Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:42 AM >>>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>> >>>>> We have customers worldwide who operate sectors typically with >>>>hundreds >>>>> of residential clients with 2 Mbps downlink / 256 or 512 kbps uplink >>>>and >>>>> some with who run entry level service (by NA standards) of 384 kbps >>>>> downlink / 128 kbps uplink that have an average of 250 clients per >>>>> sector with 6 sectors per BTS in an urban market. >>>>> >>>>> The WiMAX MAC is much more sophisticated than other MACs used in >>>>> wireless networking. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>On >>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:20 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>>> >>>>> More troll than substance but I wouldn't put more than 30 users on a >>>>> WiMAX >>>>> AP anyway... not enough bandwidth. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Jeff Booher" <jefftho...@fastmail.fm> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 AM >>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>>> >>>>>> It is not the same gear by any means. Tranzeo's AP is a micro base >>>>>> station, >>>>>> that only supports 30 subscribers. >>>>>> >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>boun...@wispa.org] >>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:34 PM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm certainly interested in ptmp. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Tranzeo gear is the same as Aperto isn't it? >>>>>> marlon >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:35 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ligowave its ptp in 3.65... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Might wanna look at tranzeo for 3.65 ptmp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>>>>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>boun...@wispa.org] >>>>> On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Leon Zetekoff >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:32 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Marlon...I'd look at the Ligowave stuff similar in principle to >>>>> the >>>>>>> UBNT stuff but I think much better. That's what I'd do today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care leon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>>>>> I'm looking into this too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far I can't find a solution for rural towers. A 3 sector >>>>install >>>>>>>> at $20k? Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even >>>>see >>>>>>>> that tower.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone have any better ideas? >>>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>>>>> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <motor...@wispa.org>; "WISPA >>>>> General >>>>>>> List" >>>>>>>> <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:55 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fellow operators: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any updates on your experienes with 3.65 gear? PMP and PTP? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any updates on experiences with: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Redline, Aperto, Tranzeo, Vecima, Alvarion, Ligowave, Solectek, >>>>>>>>> Airspan ??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gino A. 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