>Two twists with pliers, cut the tags and fold them over This removes the sharp edge completely IME. I very rarely do this, though.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote: > I too disagree on the electrical tape. An old installer taught me > that 9" - 12" lengths of insulated solid #8 wire makes great bundle > ties. Before the climb, he cuts a bunch of them to length, stuffs > them in his pouch. On the way back down, every five feet or so he > will take the wire around the bundle and around the tower leg. Two > twists with pliers, cut the tags and fold them over. Quick, cheap > and last forever. > > At 09:18 AM 8/5/2009, you wrote: > >I disagree on the electrical tape. Every climb where I see electrical > tape > >the stuff is remarkably frail. A stiff breeze would peel it right off. > >Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw. > > > >The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these and I > >love them: > > > http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824&eventPage=2 > > > >They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last > >"forever". As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut. Just last > >week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good > while. > > > >I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but I'm > >sure someone will get an idea =) > > > >Good list to have! > > > >Josh Luthman > >Office: 937-552-2340 > >Direct: 937-552-2343 > >1100 Wayne St > >Suite 1337 > >Troy, OH 45373 > > > >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > >improbable, must be the truth." > >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > >On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo > ><sc...@brevardwireless.com>wrote: > > > > > Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m) > > > > > > Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap > > > and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps > > > > > > Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove > > > without tools etc > > > > > > Scott Carullo > > > Brevard Wireless > > > (321) 205-1100 x102 > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find > > > > out > > > > what/if anything other people are doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RF Prep > > > > > > > > 1. Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for > antennas, > > > > radios, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables > > > > > > > > 1. Use a 18"-24" standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg > > > > (sectors and backhauls). > > > > > > > > 2. Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, > tape. > > > > > > > > 3. Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal > > > > around > > > > with heatshrink. > > > > > > > > 4. Use Dielectric Grease on all connections. Protects the > > > > Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to > > > > build > > > > up on the connector and get water inside the cable. I also use it on > > > > RF. Once I was on a building and installing a link. I didn't have > > > > any > > > > tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the connector. I went > back > > > > to that building a year later and the connections are still solid. I > > > > know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using > > > > mastic, > > > > so this was bare and it was dry. Link is still solid. > > > > > > > > 5. Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on > down > > > > the road. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lightning Protection Side > > > > > > > > 1. Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any > > > > MikroTik board. > > > > > > > > 2. Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections. > > > > > > > > 3. Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding > > > > > > > > 4. Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to > > > > ground source. > > > > > > > > 5. Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safety Fall Protection > > > > > > > > 1. Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there. > > > > > > > > 2. Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those > > > > towers. > > > > > > > > 3. We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2 > > > > positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel. > > > > > > > > 4. Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope > > > > and > > > > 1k lb tag line. > > > > > > > > 5. Cable/Rope Grabs > > > > > > > > 6. Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class, > > > > works for me) > > > > > > > > 7. Safety plan and project meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Base > > > > > > > > 1. We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the > > > > importance of the tower) > > > > > > > > 2. We install a monitor/remote power switch. > > > > > > > > 3. Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun. > > > > > > > > 4. Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart > > > > shops. > > > > > > > > 5. Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy > > > > > > > > 6. Ground out everything at the base. 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