I use wire too and it lasts foreever but is harder on the cable good tape lasts too known by experience 5+ years on tower no issues. Cell tower guys use the good stuff too theirs don't fall off either
Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug 5, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > I too disagree on the electrical tape. An old installer taught me > that 9" - 12" lengths of insulated solid #8 wire makes great bundle > ties. Before the climb, he cuts a bunch of them to length, stuffs > them in his pouch. On the way back down, every five feet or so he > will take the wire around the bundle and around the tower leg. Two > twists with pliers, cut the tags and fold them over. Quick, cheap > and last forever. > > At 09:18 AM 8/5/2009, you wrote: >> I disagree on the electrical tape. Every climb where I see >> electrical tape >> the stuff is remarkably frail. A stiff breeze would peel it right >> off. >> Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw. >> >> The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to >> these and I >> love them: >> http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824&eventPage=2 >> >> They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last >> "forever". As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut. >> Just last >> week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a >> good while. >> >> I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it >> but I'm >> sure someone will get an idea =) >> >> Good list to have! >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m) >>> >>> Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie >>> wrap >>> and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps >>> >>> Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove >>> without tools etc >>> >>> Scott Carullo >>> Brevard Wireless >>> (321) 205-1100 x102 >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and >>>> find >>>> out >>>> what/if anything other people are doing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> RF Prep >>>> >>>> 1. Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for >>>> antennas, >>>> radios, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables >>>> >>>> 1. Use a 18"-24" standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the >>>> leg >>>> (sectors and backhauls). >>>> >>>> 2. Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, >>>> tape. >>>> >>>> 3. Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal >>>> around >>>> with heatshrink. >>>> >>>> 4. Use Dielectric Grease on all connections. Protects the >>>> Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to >>>> build >>>> up on the connector and get water inside the cable. I also use >>>> it on >>>> RF. Once I was on a building and installing a link. I didn't have >>>> any >>>> tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the connector. I went >>>> back >>>> to that building a year later and the connections are still >>>> solid. I >>>> know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using >>>> mastic, >>>> so this was bare and it was dry. Link is still solid. >>>> >>>> 5. Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on >>>> down >>>> the road. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lightning Protection Side >>>> >>>> 1. Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any >>>> MikroTik board. >>>> >>>> 2. Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections. >>>> >>>> 3. Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding >>>> >>>> 4. Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower >>>> to >>>> ground source. >>>> >>>> 5. Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Safety Fall Protection >>>> >>>> 1. Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there. >>>> >>>> 2. Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those >>>> towers. >>>> >>>> 3. We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, >>>> 1-2 >>>> positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel. >>>> >>>> 4. Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope >>>> and >>>> 1k lb tag line. >>>> >>>> 5. Cable/Rope Grabs >>>> >>>> 6. Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower >>>> class, >>>> works for me) >>>> >>>> 7. Safety plan and project meeting >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Base >>>> >>>> 1. We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the >>>> importance of the tower) >>>> >>>> 2. We install a monitor/remote power switch. >>>> >>>> 3. Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun. >>>> >>>> 4. Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart >>>> shops. >>>> >>>> 5. Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy >>>> >>>> 6. Ground out everything at the base. Setup 600SS and other >>>> surge >>>> supressors >>>> >>>> 7. Mount POE's, Switches, etc. to 3/4 " x4'x4' plywood >>>> >>>> 8. Typically every tower we put up has a RB/450G or a RB/ >>>> 493AH >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Do a ground run through to make sure you aren't missing anything. >>>> Happy >>>> vertical travels, and up you go. Take your time, double check >>>> everything 3 times, as you don't want to forget and safely come >>>> down. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm probably missing some things here, but that's what I can >>>> remember >>>> off-hand. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Chuck Hogg >>>> >>>> Shelby Broadband >>>> 502-722-9292 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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