Where is everyone getting that you are allowed to prioritize anything? The speech details three points along the subject of prioritization. The Julius Genachowski's recent speech specifically said "no prioritization"--refer to section 5.
- "This means they cannot block or degrade lawful traffic over their networks" (blocking / deprioritizing) - "or pick winners by favoring some content or applications over others in the connection to subscribers’ homes" (prioritizing) - "During periods of network congestion, for example, it may be appropriate for providers to ensure that very heavy users do not crowd out everyone else" (block / degrade on a per-user basis, rather than per-application?) - Doesn't apply to managed services (I believe that he's referring to metro Ethernet with QOS) - "open Internet principles apply only to lawful content, services and applications -- not to activities like unlawful distribution of copyrighted works, which has serious economic consequences." (As I said in my Senate confirmation hearing, open Internet principles apply only to lawful content, services and applications -- not to activities like unlawful distribution of copyrighted works, which has serious economic consequences.) Where has any statement been made regarding prioritization being ok? Thanks, -Clint Ricker On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>wrote: > Right, which is why I phrased it that way. You can't deprioritize > anything, > but you can prioritize anything (based upon what I've read on this list). > They accomplish the same thing, but at face value, one is permissible the > other is not. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:53 PM > To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for > > > You'd have to ask the FCC. Seems like it's the opposite side of the same > > coin. > > > > Jeff > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:51 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for > > > > What's the difference between prioritizing all traditional services above > > other and deprioritizing the "bad" ones below other? > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:07 PM > > To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for > > > >> The FCC has said that you cannot de-prioritize any type of traffic. You > >> have to do it by prioritizing other types of traffic. > >> > >> Jeff > >> ImageStream > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of Jerry Richardson > >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:53 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting > for > >> > >> I read the Fifth as I cannot discriminate - meaning block this but not > >> that. > >> It says nothing about shaping. > >> > >> Jerry > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of David E. Smith > >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:33 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for > >> > >> http://openinternet.gov/read-speech.html > >> > >> In addition to the four classic "Network neutrality" principles, the FCC > >> plans to pursue two more. Quotes from the speech: > >> > >> * "The fifth principle is one of non-discrimination -- stating that > >> broadband providers cannot discriminate against particular Internet > >> content > >> or applications." > >> * "The sixth principle is a transparency principle -- stating that > >> providers > >> of broadband Internet access must be transparent about their network > >> management practices." > >> > >> I love the sixth one, but number five gives me the willies. "Nope, > >> doesn't > >> matter that BitTorrent users bring your network to its knees, you're not > >> allowed to do anything about it." Please tell me I'm missing something. > >> > >> David Smith > >> MVN.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- > >> WISPA Wants You! 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