Take a look at the third and the fifth bullet points. --C
Clint Ricker wrote: > Where is everyone getting that you are allowed to prioritize anything? The > speech details three points along the subject of prioritization. The Julius > Genachowski's recent speech specifically said "no prioritization"--refer to > section 5. > > - "This means they cannot block or degrade lawful traffic over their > networks" (blocking / deprioritizing) > - "or pick winners by favoring some content or applications over others in > the connection to subscribers' homes" (prioritizing) > - "During periods of network congestion, for example, it may be appropriate > for providers to ensure that very heavy users do not crowd out everyone > else" (block / degrade on a per-user basis, rather than per-application?) > - Doesn't apply to managed services (I believe that he's referring to metro > Ethernet with QOS) > - "open Internet principles apply only to lawful content, services and > applications -- not to activities like unlawful distribution of copyrighted > works, which has serious economic consequences." (As I said in my Senate > confirmation hearing, open Internet principles apply only to lawful content, > services and applications -- not to activities like unlawful distribution of > copyrighted works, which has serious economic consequences.) > > Where has any statement been made regarding prioritization being ok? > > Thanks, > -Clint Ricker > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> Right, which is why I phrased it that way. You can't deprioritize >> anything, >> but you can prioritize anything (based upon what I've read on this list). >> They accomplish the same thing, but at face value, one is permissible the >> other is not. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:53 PM >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for >> >> >>> You'd have to ask the FCC. Seems like it's the opposite side of the same >>> coin. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:51 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for >>> >>> What's the difference between prioritizing all traditional services above >>> other and deprioritizing the "bad" ones below other? >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:07 PM >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for >>> >>> >>>> The FCC has said that you cannot de-prioritize any type of traffic. You >>>> have to do it by prioritizing other types of traffic. >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> ImageStream >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Jerry Richardson >>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:53 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting >>>> >> for >> >>>> I read the Fifth as I cannot discriminate - meaning block this but not >>>> that. >>>> It says nothing about shaping. >>>> >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:33 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for >>>> >>>> http://openinternet.gov/read-speech.html >>>> >>>> In addition to the four classic "Network neutrality" principles, the FCC >>>> plans to pursue two more. Quotes from the speech: >>>> >>>> * "The fifth principle is one of non-discrimination -- stating that >>>> broadband providers cannot discriminate against particular Internet >>>> content >>>> or applications." >>>> * "The sixth principle is a transparency principle -- stating that >>>> providers >>>> of broadband Internet access must be transparent about their network >>>> management practices." >>>> >>>> I love the sixth one, but number five gives me the willies. "Nope, >>>> doesn't >>>> matter that BitTorrent users bring your network to its knees, you're not >>>> allowed to do anything about it." Please tell me I'm missing something. >>>> >>>> David Smith >>>> MVN.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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