Bob, sadly there isn't.  I've talked to many of them and their hands are 
tied because Viacom, NBC Universal, etc., etc. won't license it over 
wireless networks.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Robert West" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:02 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

> Would the Free To Air stuff work at all?  I have some customers who do 
> Free
> To Air but I have yet to even look at one of their setups to see what type
> of content they are getting.  But is Free To Air also Free to 
> Rebroadcast??!
>
>
> I tried to deal with Time Warner as just being a reseller of their content
> but they just yawned.  I wanted to setup a building to install the
> individual digital boxes in for each customer ant Time Warner would just
> install in that building as needed.  Then stream the video channel to the
> customer.  Not gonna fly with Time Warner.
>
> Anyone else out there doing TV over IP?  How are you setting this up and 
> how
> are you obtaining rights to rebroadcast the video content?  Certainly 
> there
> HAS to be a group that we can purchase content from.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:14 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>
> I've looked into doing traditional TV over IP and wireless networks... 
> You
> can't obtain a license for traditional TV over wireless networks.
>
> I wouldn't mind coming up with a half assed list of places of good video
> content.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Clint Ricker" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:11 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>
>> I am all too aware of the weakness of wireless networks in regards to
>> streaming of video.
>>
>> That said, I cannot see how over the top video is a bad thing for
>> independent ISPs, even if wireless technology has to make some progress 
>> to
>> handle it.  It removes triple play as a competitive advantage for your
>> competitors and hurts them a LOT more than it costs the independent ISPs.
>> If anything, independent ISPs (especially wireline independent ISPs)
>> should
>> be advertising "Internet access, includes 10 million channels for FREE"
>> and
>> get people to shift the $1,500-$2,000 a year that they are spending on
>> triple play packages over your way.
>>
>> -Clint Ricker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> This is imminent. The questions is: whose network? -RickG
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Robert West 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > One thing you can bank on, it WILL take hold.
>>> >
>>> > The need for more Bandwidth won't be stopped anytime soon, I believe.
>>> > Eventually most if not all communications will run over the same
>>> > network,
>>> > which if you think about it, all the communications out there seem to
>>> touch
>>> > the internet at least in part.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>> > On
>>> > Behalf Of Clint Ricker
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:21 AM
>>> > To: WISPA General List
>>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>>> >
>>> > For the mainstream ISPs (the big RBOCs and MSOs), their bandwidth 
>>> > costs
>>> are
>>> > very, very low and are a small fraction of their overall costs.
>>> > However,
>>> > that statement does ignore the costs of perpetually upgrading their
>>> network
>>> > to handle larger volumes of bandwidth.  From a cost perspective, that
>>> > is
>>> the
>>> > main motivation for the big players to shape traffic.  However, even
>>> > that
>>> is
>>> > small compared to the potential loss of revenue if "over the top" 
>>> > video
>>> > takes hold.
>>> >
>>> > -Clint
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> > It's back....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,552503,00.html?test=latestnews
>>> >>
>>> >> I am just waiting for them to say bitcaps are a no no.  When you 
>>> >> think
>>> >> about it with a bit cap you cannot really use the Internet to
>>> >> completely replace the catv or dish service.  Some consumers I am 
>>> >> sure
>>> >> are going to say that's not fair and some clueless law makers will
>>> >> likely believe them.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have already heard some 'expert' IT people on blogs brag that
>>> >> bandwidth costs ISP's virtually nothing and the only reason for
>>> >> bitcaps is to prevent competing video services from taking market
>>> >> share.
>>> >>
>>> >> Matt
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
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