Would the Free To Air stuff work at all?  I have some customers who do Free
To Air but I have yet to even look at one of their setups to see what type
of content they are getting.  But is Free To Air also Free to Rebroadcast??!


I tried to deal with Time Warner as just being a reseller of their content
but they just yawned.  I wanted to setup a building to install the
individual digital boxes in for each customer ant Time Warner would just
install in that building as needed.  Then stream the video channel to the
customer.  Not gonna fly with Time Warner.

Anyone else out there doing TV over IP?  How are you setting this up and how
are you obtaining rights to rebroadcast the video content?  Certainly there
HAS to be a group that we can purchase content from.

Bob-




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

I've looked into doing traditional TV over IP and wireless networks...  You 
can't obtain a license for traditional TV over wireless networks.

I wouldn't mind coming up with a half assed list of places of good video 
content.


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Clint Ricker" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:11 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

> I am all too aware of the weakness of wireless networks in regards to
> streaming of video.
>
> That said, I cannot see how over the top video is a bad thing for
> independent ISPs, even if wireless technology has to make some progress to
> handle it.  It removes triple play as a competitive advantage for your
> competitors and hurts them a LOT more than it costs the independent ISPs.
> If anything, independent ISPs (especially wireline independent ISPs) 
> should
> be advertising "Internet access, includes 10 million channels for FREE" 
> and
> get people to shift the $1,500-$2,000 a year that they are spending on
> triple play packages over your way.
>
> -Clint Ricker
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This is imminent. The questions is: whose network? -RickG
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Robert West <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > One thing you can bank on, it WILL take hold.
>> >
>> > The need for more Bandwidth won't be stopped anytime soon, I believe.
>> > Eventually most if not all communications will run over the same 
>> > network,
>> > which if you think about it, all the communications out there seem to
>> touch
>> > the internet at least in part.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> > Behalf Of Clint Ricker
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:21 AM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>> >
>> > For the mainstream ISPs (the big RBOCs and MSOs), their bandwidth costs
>> are
>> > very, very low and are a small fraction of their overall costs. 
>> > However,
>> > that statement does ignore the costs of perpetually upgrading their
>> network
>> > to handle larger volumes of bandwidth.  From a cost perspective, that 
>> > is
>> the
>> > main motivation for the big players to shape traffic.  However, even 
>> > that
>> is
>> > small compared to the potential loss of revenue if "over the top" video
>> > takes hold.
>> >
>> > -Clint
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > It's back....
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,552503,00.html?test=latestnews
>> >>
>> >> I am just waiting for them to say bitcaps are a no no.  When you think
>> >> about it with a bit cap you cannot really use the Internet to
>> >> completely replace the catv or dish service.  Some consumers I am sure
>> >> are going to say that's not fair and some clueless law makers will
>> >> likely believe them.
>> >>
>> >> I have already heard some 'expert' IT people on blogs brag that
>> >> bandwidth costs ISP's virtually nothing and the only reason for
>> >> bitcaps is to prevent competing video services from taking market
>> >> share.
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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