Who will let me bundle DirecTV?  NRTC has a program that does that, but 
their contract with DirecTV is under renegotiation, so they're not taking 
new customers.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Curtis Maurand" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:44 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

>
> Try talking to DirectTV or Dish Networks.  They'll deal with you to 
> resell.
> --C
> Robert West wrote:
>> Would the Free To Air stuff work at all?  I have some customers who do 
>> Free
>> To Air but I have yet to even look at one of their setups to see what 
>> type
>> of content they are getting.  But is Free To Air also Free to 
>> Rebroadcast??!
>>
>>
>> I tried to deal with Time Warner as just being a reseller of their 
>> content
>> but they just yawned.  I wanted to setup a building to install the
>> individual digital boxes in for each customer ant Time Warner would just
>> install in that building as needed.  Then stream the video channel to the
>> customer.  Not gonna fly with Time Warner.
>>
>> Anyone else out there doing TV over IP?  How are you setting this up and 
>> how
>> are you obtaining rights to rebroadcast the video content?  Certainly 
>> there
>> HAS to be a group that we can purchase content from.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:14 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>>
>> I've looked into doing traditional TV over IP and wireless networks... 
>> You
>> can't obtain a license for traditional TV over wireless networks.
>>
>> I wouldn't mind coming up with a half assed list of places of good video
>> content.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Clint Ricker" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:11 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>>
>>
>>> I am all too aware of the weakness of wireless networks in regards to
>>> streaming of video.
>>>
>>> That said, I cannot see how over the top video is a bad thing for
>>> independent ISPs, even if wireless technology has to make some progress 
>>> to
>>> handle it.  It removes triple play as a competitive advantage for your
>>> competitors and hurts them a LOT more than it costs the independent 
>>> ISPs.
>>> If anything, independent ISPs (especially wireline independent ISPs)
>>> should
>>> be advertising "Internet access, includes 10 million channels for FREE"
>>> and
>>> get people to shift the $1,500-$2,000 a year that they are spending on
>>> triple play packages over your way.
>>>
>>> -Clint Ricker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> This is imminent. The questions is: whose network? -RickG
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Robert West 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One thing you can bank on, it WILL take hold.
>>>>>
>>>>> The need for more Bandwidth won't be stopped anytime soon, I believe.
>>>>> Eventually most if not all communications will run over the same
>>>>> network,
>>>>> which if you think about it, all the communications out there seem to
>>>>>
>>>> touch
>>>>
>>>>> the internet at least in part.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Clint Ricker
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:21 AM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
>>>>>
>>>>> For the mainstream ISPs (the big RBOCs and MSOs), their bandwidth 
>>>>> costs
>>>>>
>>>> are
>>>>
>>>>> very, very low and are a small fraction of their overall costs.
>>>>> However,
>>>>> that statement does ignore the costs of perpetually upgrading their
>>>>>
>>>> network
>>>>
>>>>> to handle larger volumes of bandwidth.  From a cost perspective, that
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> main motivation for the big players to shape traffic.  However, even
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> small compared to the potential loss of revenue if "over the top" 
>>>>> video
>>>>> takes hold.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Clint
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's back....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,552503,00.html?test=latestnews
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am just waiting for them to say bitcaps are a no no.  When you 
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> about it with a bit cap you cannot really use the Internet to
>>>>>> completely replace the catv or dish service.  Some consumers I am 
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> are going to say that's not fair and some clueless law makers will
>>>>>> likely believe them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have already heard some 'expert' IT people on blogs brag that
>>>>>> bandwidth costs ISP's virtually nothing and the only reason for
>>>>>> bitcaps is to prevent competing video services from taking market
>>>>>> share.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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