I have problems getting even my Sirius radio to work in some parts of Kentucky!
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops Come to rural Kentuckyh and see if it works :) On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Jonathan Schmidt <jeschm...@jeschmidt.com> wrote: > I have a Nokia E71 and tether it to my laptop via Bluetooth for > always-on-everywhere. > > It's worked everywhere I've been including 20 countries outside the US. > > I get 1.35 mbps download virtually everywhere I try it in the US...Texas > cities, DC, NYC, etc. > > Using their MediaNet, it's $10 a month for unlimited use. > > How can you compete with that? > > . . . J o n a t h a n > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:17 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops > > I have an AT&T aircard built into my laptop (Thinkpad t500; Ericsson > f3507g) and if it worked half of the places I try I'd be happy. Many > places just don't seem offer a strong enough signal and the rest associate > but never get pppoe operating. There have been a few places where their > DNS was down, but I got online and used my own DNS. > > Don't count on aircards for remote connectivity (or your cell phone for > data, tethered or not). > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Robert West > <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > >> I usually just sit down and cry for a few minutes, somehow find a way >> to blame the customer, cry again for a few minutes, etc..... >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:05 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >> >> Call the office. Think it out. What else are you going to do? Turn >> into a brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things >> don't work? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney <josh.che...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because >> > their connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that > much... >> > >> > Robert West wrote: >> > > I agree. I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every >> > > install >> > online >> > > so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at. Not so for me at >> > > the >> > moment. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >> > > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM >> > > To: WISPA General List >> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >> > > >> > > Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if >> > > it's another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the >> > > resident is >> > gone. >> > > Get paperwork that allows you to do so. >> > > >> > > Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it >> > > penetrates >> the >> > > wall and the POE. >> > > >> > > Josh Luthman >> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > > 1100 Wayne St >> > > Suite 1337 >> > > Troy, OH 45373 >> > > >> > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, >> > > however improbable, must be the truth." >> > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net < >> > > jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: >> > > >> > >> inline >> > >> >> > >> Mark Nash wrote: >> > >>> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business. >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even >> > >>> the >> least >> > >>> expensive MPoP? >> > >> 1 >> > >> I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not have >> > >> a >> > > laptop. >> > >> They >> > >> need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I manage >> > >> it, >> they >> > >> have >> > >> ZERO access to it) >> > >> >> > >> The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out >> > >> some >> > >> user/pass) is >> > >> to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware. >> > >> >> > >>> 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs >> > devalues >> > >> my >> > >>> business to a prospective buyer. >> > >> Why? >> > >> >> > >>> 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a problem >> > >>> for >> > > tech >> > >>> support (we have 700 customers and 3 techs...not everyone knows >> > >>> what >> > > each >> > >>> installation looks like or how it's connected necessarily). >> > >> Documentation! >> > >> I have found that pictures of >every< install is a must. I have a >> place >> > >> where I >> > >> store everything (other then just my brain!) even tho I am still >> > >> in >> the >> > > one >> > >> man >> > >> shop stages with this one. I keep every firmware, every >> > >> application, >> > reams >> > >> of >> > >> note pads, etc. I distill it down every so often. The one thing I >> > >> am missing most )and am working on fixing that) is a GOOD network >> > >> resource map >> > setup. >> > >> >> > >>> I think this is good discussion... >> > >>> >> > >>> Just because you CAN do it, SHOULD you do it. >> > >>> >> > >>> Depends on a few factors... >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. Do I need/want to make money any which way I can? >> > >> Yes! =) >> > >> >> > >> OK OK, no bank robberies. >> > >> >> > >>> 2. How much do I put into a MPoP (battery backup vs. power >> > >>> outage & >> no >> > >>> access to AP if its host is on vacation) >> > >> Thats easy. How often is power out? I have full site access >> > >> (roof) and everything is there. I will be adding out door mounted >> > >> UPS's as it >> makes >> > >> sense >> > >> to. For the most part, when power is out here, everyone is with > out. >> In >> > >> years >> > >> the only power outage that did not take >everyone< out let us >> > >> know >> there >> > >> was a >> > >> issue with one of the primary UPS's. APC and it had no idea the >> battery >> > > was >> > >> bad >> > >> till after the power failed. >> > >> >> > >>> 3. Do I plan to sell my business and if I do should I stick to >> > >> traditional >> > >>> "inside-the-box" installations? >> > >> Right now, I do not plan to sell (no way would I get out what I >> > >> have >> put >> > > in >> > >> time >> > >> wise). Would I ever sell? Sure its on the table but right now I >> > >> can >> not >> > >> demand >> > >> the price I would need to move on to bigger/better projects. I >> > >> expect >> > that >> > >> to >> > >> change some day. >> > >> >> > >> "inside the box" oh man. I had a convo with a SBC rep once. DS3 >> > >> port >> > > $2000, >> > >> 700ft to cross the street $28K. Wireless? to quote "That (roof >> > >> access) >> > is >> > >> to far >> > >> out side the box". This is 10 years ago. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On a side, I play the lotto and fiddle with numbers and burn >> > >> $5/mo or >> so >> > > in >> > >> tickets. Its a hobby and it pays off often enough to fund itself. >> > >> If I >> > > were >> > >> to >> > >> ever 'win big' I would do this for free, I simply love doing it. >> > >> Yes, >> I >> > am >> > >> certifiable. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> Mark Nash >> > >>> UnwiredWest >> > >>> 78 Centennial Loop >> > >>> Suite E >> > >>> Eugene, OR 97401 >> > >>> 541-998-5555 >> > >>> 541-998-5599 fax >> > >>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >> > >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:39 PM >> > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>> I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and >> bullets >> > >>>> for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible). >> > >>>> -RickG >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy >> > >>>> <mmce...@accubak.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>>>> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to >> > redistribute >> > >>>>> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a >> > >>>>> full blown AP/BH setup. Any one else doing this? I normally >> > >>>>> use 5.8 for >> BH >> > >>>>> typically and 2.4 for clients, I was thinking of maybe using a >> > >>>>> PS2 >> to >> > >>>>> receive/BH and connect it to an NS2 with small omni to >> redistribute. >> > >>>>> Both would be in a bridge and allow the clients connected to >> connect >> > > to >> > >>>>> the main AP for PPPoE authentication. Is this a reasonable or >> > >> ridiculous >> > >>>>> solution? Any other solutions others are using that might be >> better? >> > I >> > >>>>> know I could use MT but that would add complexity to the mix I >> don't >> > >>>>> need. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Mark >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > > >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------ >> > > ---- >> > >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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