Bureaucrats, with ALL of their agendas have a knack for obfuscating the rules; it's self serving. I really like the idea of having 300 MHz with which to work. I hope WISPA comments help make that a reality. Nice work.
Mike At 08:38 PM 10/25/2009, Jack wrote: >Mike, > >300 MHz is an estimate of how much spectrum would be needed to >accommodate the needs of three WISP operators in the same general >area. Simply stated, it would provide from 12 to 15 20-MHz >non-interfering channels. Of course, everyone can come up with their >own estimate but we needed a figure to use so I supplied 300 MHz as >my best estimate. Further, the current frequencies would also stay >in use so migration to the hoped-for new spectrum would take place >over time. Finally, in addition to spectrum, we need usable rules >for use of that spectrum. We've all seen how half the 3650 band is >wasted today and how the 5.4 GHz band is messed up by the DFS rules >and how the TV White Space spectrum rules (microphone sensing, etc.) >will create BIG problems if not corrected. Our spectrum battles are >sometimes "WON" by getting the spectrum but then "LOST" because the >FCC (sometimes at the request of behind-the-scenes actors) sticks us >with some unworkable rule or regulation. > >jack > > >Mike wrote: >> >>Very fine work Jack. I spent some time early this morning reading >>the comments and commend you for a good job. I am curious, how you >>came up with the 300 MHz number: >> >> "300 MHz of spectrum will be needed for fixed wireless >>broadband to replace the noisy and crowded license-free spectrum and >>to meet consumer demands for emerging bandwidth-intensive applications." >> >>If WISPA had more members it would add clout to the sense of urgency >>you seemed to develop in these comments. Besides a good analysis of >>the changes needed at 3600 and the TV white space, these comments >>help posit WISPA as a voice of the industry. >> >>Thanks again and best regards, >> >>Mike >> >> >>At 04:41 PM 10/23/2009, you wrote: >> >>> >>>Hi Mike, >>> >>>We just finished our work on WISPA's "Spectrum for Broadband" filing >>>and it goes to the FCC today. >>> >>><The following is a Commercial Message> Those WISPs who enjoy using >>>this list but who are not WISPA members should really consider >>>joining WISPA. WISPA members just paid $5000 in legal fees to >>>prepare and file Comments with the FCC to provide more broadband >>>spectrum for you to use. Without spectrum, there would be NO WISPs. >>>Non-members of WISPA should realize that nothing of value (except >>>maybe love) is ever given away for free. If you are a WISP that's >>>reading this, please consider joining WISPA for the low rate of only >>>$250 per year (with payment plans available). WISPA supports you. >>>It's time for you to step up and show your support for your industry >>>and for WISPA. <End of Commercial Message> >>> >>>So Mike - Everyone would agree with your analysis that UHF antennas >>>are smaller than VHF antennas. Here is the additional information >>>that should help put the TV White Space antenna-size discussion >>>into context. >>> >>>The FCC's TV White Space rules (issued last November) were the >>>result of a VERY long and contentious process. The TV broadcasters >>>did not want to see the White Spaces used by anyone else. They >>>claimed that television broadcasting would be interfered with. In >>>addition, there are already half a million ILLEGAL unlicensed >>>wireless microphones in use in the U.S. Unfortunately they are often >>>used by churches, musicians and other groups that have a lot of >>>political "clout". The result of the multi-year FCC process to to >>>decide if the TV White Spaces would be released for non-licensed use >>>of auctioned off to cell phone companies was the FCC decision to >>>allow unlicensed use BUT to create a set of rules that "protected" >>>both the incumbent television broadcasters (who legitimately deserve >>>protection) AND the illegal unlicensed microphone users (who don't >>>deserve protection). The FCC rules are 90% OK regarding WISP >>>license-free TVWS use but the last 10% can cause so much trouble >>>that WISP use of TVWS spectrum may turn out to be impractical. >>> >>>Here's the heart of the problem and the reason why a large >>>television broadcast type antenna may be needed. >>> >>>1. TV White Space will work best the more rural your area. If you >>>are in or near an urban area, there will be few or NO channels >>>available. The channels used by commercial TV broadcasters PLUS one >>>channel above and one channel below will be off-limits to eliminate >>>adjacent-channel interference. >>> >>>2. If you are in a more-rural area, there WILL be channels available >>>but the available channels will need to be shared. You can use one, >>>your neighbor network can use the same one, etc. >>> >>>3. You will not be able to pick just any channel. You must pick only >>>an available channel (if there is one) to avoid interfering with the >>>TV broadcasters. If only a VHF channel is available, then you will >>>have to use a VHF-sized antenna. If a UHF channel is available, you >>>can pick that and use a smaller UHF antenna. The NLOS >>>characteristics will be worse and the free-space path loss will be >>>higher but you can pick UHF to keep antenna size down if you want >>>(and if available). >>> >>>4. Now for the bad news. Under current FCC rules, if a wireless mike >>>pops up near any of your base stations or customer locations, you >>>have to switch channels so you don't interfer with them. To >>>effectively switch channels, you need a multiband antenna which is >>>TV-antenna sized. If there are no other available channels then you >>>will need to go off the air. >>> >>>5. You can see how variable and unreliable the channel-switching >>>situation is. It's completely un-workable. Not only will you need to >>>use large antennas to get broadband VHF-UHF capabilities but the >>>propagation characteristics will be different too so what works on >>>one channel might not work on another channel. This example really >>>shows how "the devil is in the details". Sure the FCC allows us to >>>use the TV White Spaces but with rules that practically make TVWS >>>very impractical or un-useable. The FCC just assumed that 1) >>>channels would be available and 2) channel-switching would work. >>>These were bad assumptions for them to make. >>> >>>6. WISPA has been petitioning the FCC for the last 9 months to get >>>them to adjust their rules to correct the microphone-sensing problem >>>and a few other problems like antenna height restrictions. WISPA's >>>FCC filing today again addressed these needed TVWS rules changes. We >>>will keep hammering away at the FCC until they adjust their rules >>>and make TVWS useable. >>> >>>This is kind of a long answer to the antenna-size question but >>>hopefully it has helped illustrate the situation and what WISPA is >>>doing (for both Members and non-members) to make the otherwise >>>very-valuable TVWS spectrum both available and useable. >>> >>>Respectfully, >>> >>>Jack Unger >>>Chair - WISPA FCC Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Mike wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Thanks Jack. I am looking forward to your insight. >>>> >>>>Mike Hammett was already so kind by referring to a wiki in a previous >>>>post. >>>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio)>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio) >>>> >>>>Mike >>>> >>>>At 02:31 PM 10/23/2009, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Mike, >>>>> >>>>>I'm just finishing up work on WISPA's "Spectrum for Broadband" FCC >>>>>filing which is due today but hang with me for another hour or so >>>>>and I'll give you some background information about the FCC's TV >>>>>White Space rules as they currently stand. Once you have the context >>>>>(full view of the rules) I think you'll have a better view of why >>>>>larger (TV-type) antennas may be required for most future TV White >>>>>Space operators. No new understanding of physics is needed; just an >>>>>understanding of the current FCC rules, an understanding of what >>>>>channels may be available in what areas, and an understanding of why >>>>>you probably won't be able to simply pick a UHF channel and simply >>>>>"dwell" on it. >>>>> >>>>>jack >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Mike wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Jack: >>>>>> >>>>>>If your goal is to use VHF frequencies at 54 MHz then YES you will >>>>>>need a large radiator! If your goal is to use UHF frequencies at >>>>>>300, or 500 MHz, then NO, you won't need a 'TV sized" antenna. If >>>>>>*MANY* 6 MHz wide allocations are made, then one would be stupid to >>>>>>use a "do all" antenna for all frequencies. Maybe I am missing >>>>>>something here. Perhaps a newly revised rules of physics? >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike Hammett, I am not just trying to be contrary but am willing to >>>>>>learn. UHF antennas are *MUCH* smaller than VHF antennas. >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike >>>>>> >>>>>>At 01:50 PM 10/23/2009, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Mike, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You are correct. I'm deep into a final review of WISPA's Spectrum >>>>>>>for Broadband FCC filing right this minute (well, actually all >>>>>>>morning) but I plan to respond to Mike's points with more >>>>>>>information that he may not have about the TV White Spaces FCC >>>>>>>rules. I think once he has that additional information, he will >>>>>>>understand why your (and my) conclusion about needing a "TV-sized" >>>>>>>antenna is correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>jack >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The 30 meter antenna was misconstrued from the antenna height >>>>>>>>requirements. >>>>>>>>It's required to be 10 meters or above for CPE use and no >>>>>>>>higher than 30 >>>>>>>>meters for AP use. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Why would a TV antenna or a TVWS antenna on the same frequency be any >>>>>>>>different in size? Maybe some missing elements if your antenna >>>>>>>>only covers >>>>>>>>part of the band, but a full band antenna should be roughly the >>>>>>>>same size as >>>>>>>>current TV antenna. We have the use of 54 - 698 MHz (with the >>>>>>>>current rule >>>>>>>>set, minus a few reserved channels). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and >>>>>>>>I discussed >>>>>>>>this at FISPA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- >>>>>>>>Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>><http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>From: "Mike" <mailto:m...@aweiowa.com><m...@aweiowa.com> >>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM >>>>>>>>To: "WISPA General List" >>>>>>>><mailto:wireless@wispa.org><wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV >>>>>>>>>antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Free space path loss is greater at 5.8 GHz than at 2.4 >>>>>>>>>GHz. Substantially. Free space path loss at 700 MHz, or 600 or 500 >>>>>>>>>is also SUBSTANTIALLY lesser than at 2.4 GHz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Free space path loss is proportional to the square of the distance >>>>>>>>>between the transmitter and receiver, and also proportional to the >>>>>>>>>square of the FREQUENCY of the radio signal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The FREQUENCY effect of the free space path loss is directly coupled >>>>>>>>>to the aperture of the antenna, which describes how sensitive an >>>>>>>>>antenna is to an incoming electromagnetic wave for which it is >>>>>>>>>resonant. Lower frequency equates to a larger aperture, and a larger >>>>>>>>>capture area for similar antennas, as compared to a much >>>>>>>>>higher frequency. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>If it is indeed a narrow band, then of course the chances of self >>>>>>>>>interference are there. The propagation characteristics of UHF for >>>>>>>>>fixed wireless are what cause me to want to "play" in this band >>>>>>>>>instead of some new allocation in the microwave regions. Think >>>>>>>>>through the trees, over the horizon, near line of site possibilities. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You also can't just reinvent the Yagi-Yuda or log periodic antenna >>>>>>>>>either. The sizes I stated for those frequencies ARE the full size >>>>>>>>>of an antenna, not some miniaturized or "rabbit ear" antenna. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Actually, I don't even think I'm arguing anything, just trying to >>>>>>>>>dispel a belief that white space antennas are these huge >>>>>>>>>monstrosities; they aren't. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>For what it's worth, my personal record for distance on UHF is around >>>>>>>>>44,000 miles. REALLY! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>At 12:20 PM 10/23/2009,Cameron wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It is not "ludacrous". Sure you can receive with a small >>>>>>>>>>yagi or panel >>>>>>>>>>or heck, even a set of rabbit ears. It's the uplink that will be the >>>>>>>>>>major issue. If you are using small cells for coverage you >>>>>>>>>>can probably >>>>>>>>>>get away with "smaller" antennas on the towers, but this will >>>>>>>>>>limit your >>>>>>>>>>uplink capability if you are wanting a desktop type CPE or >>>>>>>>>>even a small >>>>>>>>>>roof mount antenna. Small cell coverage like with uW freqs >>>>>>>>>>will have to >>>>>>>>>>be carefully planned due to the propagation characteristics and the >>>>>>>>>>potential for self interfernece on such a narrow band. It's not >>>>>>>>>>impossible, just more complicated. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cameron >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Mike wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>At 704 MHz, a quarter wave is about 4 inches long. The driven >>>>>>>>>>>element of a Yagi would be about 8 inches long. They would be way >>>>>>>>>>>shorter than 30 meters, or what do you mean? Think about >>>>>>>>>>>the 900 MHz >>>>>>>>>>>antennas you see but just a little bigger for the upper UHF white >>>>>>>>>>>space. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Ch 52 is 698 MHz. Ch 69 is 800 MHz. Some of the talk I've seen >>>>>>>>>>>about enormous antennas in the "white space" is ludicrous. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Give me ANY part of it and the radios to use it and I >>>>>>>>>>>will. Propagation would be superior to anything we're using now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Mike >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>At 07:46 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>What equipment are they using? Did they have to do the 30 meter >>>>>>>>>>>>antennas? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Scottie >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Gino Villarini" >>>>>>>>>>>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>>>>><mailto:wireless@wispa.org><wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:22 -0400 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>IIRC, 6 mhz channels were proponed on the FCC RO, you could bond >>>>>>>>>>>>>them... >>>>>>>>>>>>>so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps >>>>>>>>>>>>>on a 6 mhz >>>>>>>>>>>>>channel. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Gino A. Villarini >>>>>>>>>>>>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>g...@aeronetpr.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>>>>>>>>>>787.273.4143 >>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>From: >>>>>>>>>>>>><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>[<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>>>>>>>>>On >>>>>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Scott Carullo >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sprint >>>>>>>>>>>>>used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>SLOW. >>>>>>>>>>>>>I >>>>>>>>>>>>>guess if you had nothing else but if it can't go one MB >>>>>>>>>>>>>its not on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>radar >>>>>>>>>>>>>of concern. 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