I would say that we are a little higher usage. I'll have to run the numbers, but for an example, my top user right now is pulling on average 5GB per day this month alone. The next 1% are 2-3G/Day and the next 2 or 3% are at the 1G/day mark.
So definitely the top 5% are the big bandwidth hogs. Eric -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing Here's some quick numbers off my network: for the last 8 days 71% of customers downloaded less than 1 GByte of Data. The top 10% all exceeded 2 GB The top 5% all exceeded 4.4 GB The top 1% exceeded 10 GB Marco On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:08 PM, George Morris <ghmor...@candlelight.ca> wrote: > Amen. It would be a very handy thing to maintain that list of speedtest > servers centrally somewhere, perhaps within WISPA. > > We don't belong to WISPA because its FCC centric which really doesn't help > us much. Much of the dues go to getting the FCC to move in a given direction > which isn't of much direct help for Canadian WISPs. > > If we had some services of this kind that were maintained by the WISPA > team/members that would change my mind in a heartbeat. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:01 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing > > I have (hopefully) all the speedtest ips in the allow list. They run > speedtest real fast, but download video for an hour and it will > throttle you. Find those speedtest IPs and let em run. Perception > is everything. Give them the perception they get that all the time. > > Mike > > At 12:25 PM 11/8/2009, you wrote: >>No, but they expect to get their speed every time they get on and they are >>great at running speed tests. I understand we are int he business of shared >>bandwidth but the equipment can only handle so much. It goes back to proper >>ratios. When you do the numbers properly, it doesnt make financial sense. >> >>On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> > wrote: >> >> > Not everyone uses 6Mbps all day long. >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:52 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Thats one way to utilize bandwidth shaping but how do you " guaranteed >> > > minimum of 1.5Mbps, 4Mbps and >> > > 6Mbps" at those low rates to every use and make money? Maybe I'm wrong >> > but >> > > the problem I see is that you will end up having unhappy subscribers > when >> > > their expectations are not met. Thats where the premium rates can come >> > in. >> > > I >> > > find people all the time who would pay more for committed speeds if it >> > can >> > > be delivered. >> > > >> > > BTW: Cricket Communications, subsidiary of Leap Wireless has lost > money >> > > since its inception and continues to do so. Give me an example of an >> > > non-subsidized "all you can eat service" company in a competitive > market >> > > that actually makes money (bottom line). >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Ya know, we've looked at this many times over the past couple years, >> > and >> > > > even tested it for a bit. >> > > > >> > > > Fact is, people like unlimited, and not having to guess. I, myself, >> > > being >> > > > a >> > > > fairly lite user of the Internet, would still always opt for an >> > unlimited >> > > > plan--even if I knew my bill may be lower on a pay-per-use plan. I >> > have >> > > > unlimited cell phone minutes, txt messages, etc. If I could pay for >> > > > unlimited utilites, I'd certainly do that too! >> > > > >> > > > We've got the infrastructure in place for a pay-per-use, and could >> > > activate >> > > > it at anytime. We tried selling it about a year ago, and people > just >> > > > didn't >> > > > understand the concept. People aren't used to it--most people got >> > online >> > > > when Internet was $19.95/mo for dialup (or, $22.95 for AOL!), and > don't >> > > > remember the 10 for $10 dial-up packages. Nobody knows what ISDN > with >> > > 300 >> > > > hours is. >> > > > >> > > > We currently offer 12Mbps service for $24.95/mo. This makes us the >> > > fastest >> > > > in the area, and the cheapest. We have local sales, support and >> > > > installations. We decided the way to win is to shape traffic--we > offer >> > > > three 12Mbps packages; one with a guaranteed minimum of 1.5Mbps, > 4Mbps >> > > and >> > > > 6Mbps. If you do nothing than browse, share pictures, etc. (i.e. >> > "normal >> > > > use") you'll always see the 12Mbps. But once you fire up a torrent > or >> > > > Netflix, you only get that speed for 10 minutes--after that, you get >> > your >> > > > guaranteed minimum. Prices double from 1.5 to 4, and double again >> > going >> > > to >> > > > 6Mbps. We have never had a complaint about speed or price with this >> > > > structure. >> > > > >> > > > I'm hoping that the "big guys" do go to pay-per-use plans. Just one >> > more >> > > > way we can advertise and win against them. "Tired of counting your >> > bits >> > > > and >> > > > bytes? We're unlimited" Look at Cricket wireless--they've just >> > exploded >> > > > with customers on their unlimited-everything service. >> > > > >> > > > Just my 2 cents >> > > > >> > > > Jayson >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > The cellular guys don't charge by the minute... I have an > unlimited >> > > plan >> > > > > on my cell phone. I can also get unlimited text and internet > access >> > for >> > > > > $9.95/mo extra. >> > > > > >> > > > > People don't want to guess what their internet bills are going to > be >> > > from >> > > > > month to month. Would you want that at your own home? >> > > > > >> > > > > Travis >> > > > > Microserv >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Gary Garrett wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > You sound like the cell phone company. >> > > > > I am convinced the big failure in my business model is I charge by >> > the >> > > > > month while the cellular guys charge by the minute. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Travis Johnson wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi, >> > > > > >> > > > > You are talking about having to add additional resources (radius, >> > etc.) >> > > > > to track it. Then you have to bill it. Then you get to deal with > the >> > > > > phone calls from users that say "My computer wasn't even turned on >> > > > > during those times. Remove the charge or I will go elsewhere." > So, >> > > even >> > > > > that one extra phone call costs you money (because you have to > think >> > > > > about scaling). Imagine if you have 100x the number of customers > you >> > > > > have now... does the same solution work? Probably not. >> > > > > >> > > > > The easier solution would be to call that customer and get them to >> > > > > upgrade to the next plan up (which would provide higher speed as >> > well). >> > > > > This works very well for us... and then I have that guaranteed > extra >> > > > > income each month, even if they don't use it. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! 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