Personally, I wouldn't even think about it. That could get you in steep trouble with Net Neutrality.
If you bill extra, bill extra for everything. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:12 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing > I'm totally for metered billing however the customers have all been > spoiled > with one price access for years now. To not alienate the customer, would > it > be possible to have the current one price for a particular speed tier with > "unlimited" MB at that speed, set the high use sites down in the list of > priority so that they don't suck up the bandwidth during high use times, > causing buffering of course, but then offer a Multi Media upgrade package > to > move their high use sites up in the list of priorities? Or even to kick > in > an added charge per use of certain sites? Such like, they pay 39 bucks for > access but Hulu and Netflix aren't given high priority. They want to use > them, add the Multi-Media package for an extra 10 bucks a month or a per > use > charge, every time they request a download from a listed site they get hit > with a $1.00 charge added to their invoice for that day. Not per request, > just for the day. Pay the buck, watch Hulu all day, sort of thing. > > I'm not a script Guru but I've thought about this for awhile. I've also > thought if the dead raccoons along the road were placed there by other > raccoons to make it look like an accident. I work alone for a reason. > > Bob- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:56 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing > > I mostly agree, it was really just a thought. But, to support my argument > for I point to the telco agreements where they exchange fees for each > others > networks. At any rate, it will probably never happen. With that said, the > end user always pays, its just a matter of how. I'm just searching for a > proper way for them to pay for their services. It just became more > difficult > in the "entitlement mentality" world where people think everything should > be > free. On a positive note, at least bandwidth is getting cheaper. > -RickG > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM, George Morris > <ghmor...@candlelight.ca>wrote: > >> Rick, I don't think its up to Netflix to pay us. They in turn would have > to >> raise their prices which would further complicate things. >> >> We need to make sure we get a fair price from our customers that reflects >> our costs and hopefully profits. >> >> So the customer pays Netflix and us for the movie they downloaded. >> >> We are moving very quickly to usage based billing too btw. >> >> George >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:26 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing >> >> In the past, l worked for two electric companies. Their business models >> were >> dependant on meters. As far as internet access, Compuserve and AOL had >> the >> right idea from the start. Instead entrepanuers took advantage of their >> weakness at the time. What we are now seeing is the downside of the >> $50/month "all you can eat" business model. When usage was low due to >> less >> apps, it worked fine but were now seeing exponential growth of usage. >> Besides that, one thing we (ISP's) are really missing, are agreements >> between each other for payment of access to our networks. For instance, > the >> phone companies pay each other for access to each others networks. I >> realize >> this is very complex but shouldnt Netflix (or their provider) pay us for >> utilziation of our networks? >> -RickG >> >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Eric Rogers <ecrog...@precisionds.com >> >wrote: >> >> > I do agree with you and that works if there are other options. One >> > customer who was downloading 160G, came from DSL and moved into this >> > neighborhood and now wants high speed where we are the only option. It >> > is only a matter of time before others are using Netflix and others. >> > They come in all gaming consoles now. Why not have the customers pay >> > for upgrades? If there is a high demand for services, the demand >> > drives >> > growth; or fees stifle demand. >> > >> > Maybe my logic is flawed, but if 5% of the customer base is straining >> > the network, shouldn't they pay more? >> > >> > Eric >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> > Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:22 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing >> > >> > 10% of your customers will use 90% of your resources. Direct that 10% >> > customer base to cable or DSL and stop worrying about adding complexity >> > to your network. >> > >> > Travis >> > Microserv >> > >> > Chuck Profito wrote: >> > > Marlon does this and smiles every time he signs a Bandwidth Hog! >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> > On >> > > Behalf Of Eric Rogers >> > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:56 AM >> > > To: WISPA General List >> > > Subject: [WISPA] Metered Billing >> > > >> > > We are on the verge of changing to a metered or tiered billing >> > structure >> > > with Caps that once they exceed the cap; it doesn't shut off, but >> > > they >> > > get charged the overage. Netflix is getting out of control and I >> > don't >> > > want to punish the customers that only use it occasionally. I think >> > > they are very innovative solutions and don't want to hinder new >> > > applications. I just want people that download 160 GB in a month, >> > when >> > > the average is nearly 10 GB a month, to pay their share for expanding >> > > the network. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Who has dabbled in the metered/tiered services and what were your >> > > customers responses? >> > > >> > > What are your tiers? >> > > >> > > Have attitudes changed toward your company as being greedy? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > We already have everything in place to do it, just need to send out >> > the >> > > letter saying we are doing it and why. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Eric Rogers >> > > >> > > Precision Data Solutions, LLC >> > > >> > > (317) 831-3000 x200 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > ---- >> > > ---- >> > > WISPA Wants You! 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