Ryan, Sure, I've done 100Mbps wireless links. But thats not the point. Forbes originally posted that cat3 will do 100Mbps. I doubt it but if such equipment exists then I'd like to have that in my war chest. Having ways to do all kinds of things is very handy. With that said, your point is actually a point I made in a following post and up to 10Mbps will handle most WAN connections.
-RickG On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:15 PM, D. Ryan Spott <[email protected]> wrote: > Rick, > > Do you provide 100mbps service to consumer level connections via > wireless links? > > If I can get 4-12mbits down a cat3 or telco wire for a home user then > then I'll probably go for it. ;) > > Ryan > > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:06 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps. > > My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do > > 100Mbps+ > > on cat 3? Not according to this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If > > such an > > animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked. > > We may be in game of semantics here. Can you get 100Mbps? I suppose > > a short > > cable on the bench might do it but not in the field reliably. In my > > experience, in order to get a reliable connection over cat 3, I had > > to lock > > down the switch ports to 10Mbps. I would never claim to know it all > > but I've > > been around the block a time or two. The windings are to cancel out > > EMF > > which can cause errors that affect speed due to transmission > > retries. The > > speed capability of a cable is due to the quality of its wire rating - > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable and > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable > > Obviously, by utilizing more that 2 pair, you can do some interesting > > things. > > -RickG > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Robert West < > [email protected] > > >wrote: > > > >> Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and > >> receive. Can > >> easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much > >> effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems > >> come from > >> the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has > >> made. Most > >> phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run. Who > >> knows > >> where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if > >> they stick > >> with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure. If it was > >> the best > >> option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on > >> its face. > >> > >> There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone > >> lines in the > >> home and you could also use the phones with the things connected. > >> That was > >> in the late 1990's, early 2000. Some Gateway desktops came with > >> them. I > >> never saw them used though. > >> > >> Bob- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- > >> [email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of RickG > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > >> > >> That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except > >> references > >> to the standard being 10Mbps: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable > >> Any examples? > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old > >>> barbwire! > >>> > >>> -Kevin > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the > >>>>> house. > >>>>> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the > >> same > >>>>> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone > >>>>> line? > >>>>> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal > >>>>> wiring > >> is > >>>>> virtually unused. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Forbes > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- > >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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