Yep... I wouldn't use this specific product in a house... but it's the only VDSL equipment I have firsthand experience with.
http://tinyurl.com/yefhy2q Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 Is that both directions? Maybe thats the answer to Forbes question? -RickG On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, 3-dB Networks <wi...@3-db.net> wrote: > VDSL equipment can get up to the 70Mbps range or so... > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:07 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > > Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps. > My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do > 100Mbps+ > on cat 3? Not according to this: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If such an > animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked. > We may be in game of semantics here. Can you get 100Mbps? I suppose a short > cable on the bench might do it but not in the field reliably. In my > experience, in order to get a reliable connection over cat 3, I had to lock > down the switch ports to 10Mbps. I would never claim to know it all but > I've > been around the block a time or two. The windings are to cancel out EMF > which can cause errors that affect speed due to transmission retries. The > speed capability of a cable is due to the quality of its wire rating - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable and > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable > Obviously, by utilizing more that 2 pair, you can do some interesting > things. > -RickG > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Robert West > <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > > > Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and receive. > Can > > easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much > > effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come from > > the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made. > Most > > phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run. Who knows > > where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they > stick > > with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure. If it was the best > > option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its > face. > > > > There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in > the > > home and you could also use the phones with the things connected. That > was > > in the late 1990's, early 2000. Some Gateway desktops came with them. I > > never saw them used though. > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of RickG > > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > > > > That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except > references > > to the standard being 10Mbps: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable > > Any examples? > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal <ke...@safelink.net> wrote: > > > > > With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old > barbwire! > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy > > > > <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com>wrote: > > > > > > > >> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the > house. > > > >> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the > > same > > > >> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone > line? > > > >> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring > > is > > > >> virtually unused. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Forbes > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > >> WISPA Wants You! 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